All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg

(0:00) David Friedberg welcomes Charles & Chase Koch (1:04) Koch Inc. Overview: Scale, Business Lines & History (2:21) Building the Business: Early Days & Charles Koch Joins (1961) (11:31) Failures, Creative Destruction & Learning from Mistakes (19:22) Culture & Principle-Based Management (33:53) Georgia-Pacific Acquisition & Culture Transformation (56:17) Stand Together: Education Reform & Social Change (1:12:37) AI, Economic Challenges & the Future of Capitalism Thanks to our partner Axon.ai for making this possible. Axon.ai — AppLovin's AI advertising platform reaches over a billion daily active users across mobile games. Full-screen video ads with a 35-second median watch time. Advertisers are profitably spending hundreds of thousands of dollars a day and advertiser access is still in closed beta. The window is open at https://axon.ai/allin Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect

(0:00) Bestie intros! Thoughts on the LA mayor election (4:38) SpaceX-Anthropic deal, Elon Web Services, SpaceX IPO valuation, Anthropic's insane growth trajectory (26:48) Is Anthropic the next great monopoly? Early signals or major overreaction? (35:21) "FDA for AI" freakout, how the White House thinks about AI safety (52:01) Flipping AI's negative perception: Giving, healthcare and education innovation (1:00:04) Trading the AI market, state of the economy Apply for Summit 2026: https://allin.com/events Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg https://x.com/altcap Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect Referenced in the show: https://x.com/WallStreetApes/status/2052413443739951366 https://www.anthropic.com/news/higher-limits-spacex https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2052073463029055926 https://x.com/shaunmmaguire/status/2052075296002625942 https://x.ai/news/anthropic-compute-partnership https://www.realtor.com/news/trends/nvidia-pultegroup-span-date-center-backyard https://www.gradesaver.com/there-will-be-blood/study-guide/a-brief-history-of-standard-oil https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/04/technology/trump-ai-models.html https://x.com/SusieWiles47/status/2052192419718783246 https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/05/business/dealbook/trump-ai-regulation.html https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/03.20.26-National-Policy-Framework-for-Artificial-Intelligence-Legislative-Recommendations.pdf https://x.com/ahall_research/status/2052042535661691282 https://x.com/SenSanders/status/2052116733683470556

(0:00) Bestie intros (3:05) OpenAI misses targets, Codex gains on Claude (20:02) AI cybersecurity: a market that's about to explode (31:03) Elon vs Sam Altman lawsuit (41:00) Big tech smashes earnings, Capex explosion (52:44) Vibecoding nightmare: AI deleted someone's codebase (58:33) Retatrutide craze: peptides go mainstream (1:06:34) Friedberg's Supreme Court experience Apply for Summit 2026: https://allin.com/events Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect Referenced in the show: https://www.instagram.com/missthingthepod https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/openai-misses-key-revenue-user-targets-in-high-stakes-sprint-toward-ipo-94a95273 https://polymarket.com/event/ipos-before-2027 https://x.com/aakashgupta/status/2049723185617412550 https://arxiv.org/pdf/1803.03635 https://x.com/AISecurityInst/status/2049868227740565890 https://x.com/ns123abc/status/2049527702076449244 https://www.reuters.com/legal/litigation/openai-trial-pitting-elon-musk-against-sam-altman-kicks-off-2026-04-28 https://x.com/ns123abc/status/2049527702076449244 https://www.google.com/finance/quote/CSCO:NASDAQ https://x.com/chamath/status/2049864100143104420 https://x.com/zerohedge/status/2049895327566561683 https://x.com/lifeof_jer/status/2048103471019434248 https://x.com/levie/status/2049163935182733396 https://www.foxnews.com/media/carville-tells-dems-quietly-prepare-power-grab-dc-puerto-rico-statehood-supreme-court-packing

(0:00) Intro: Steve Hilton is a Republican Brit Running for CA Governor (8:34) Zero Tax Under $100K and a 7.5% Flat Rate: Is It Fiscally Possible? (27:52) Why CA Homes Cost 3x More to Build (Unions, CEQA, and Climate Dogma) (44:50) Why CA Schools Spend the Most but Get the Worst Results (50:02) Crime, Homelessness, and the Failure to Enforce Laws That Already Exist (1:01:34) Can a Republican Actually Win California? Follow Steve: https://x.com/SteveHiltonx Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect

(0:00) Bestie intros! (4:55) SpaceX-Cursor deal, compute as leverage (18:33) SaaS bloodbath, debt bomb incoming, buy the dip? (46:20) New Apple CEO: John Ternus succeeds Tim Cook, what's next for Apple? (1:00:32) SPLC indictment, out of control NGOs (1:19:03) Science Corner: Potential cause discovered for colon cancer spike in young people Apply for Summit 2026: https://allin.com/events Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect Referenced in the show: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-04-21/spacex-says-has-agreement-to-acquire-cursor-for-60-billion https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-03-02/cursor-recurring-revenue-doubles-in-three-months-to-2-billion https://techcrunch.com/2026/04/17/sources-cursor-in-talks-to-raise-2b-at-50b-valuation-as-enterprise-growth-surges https://polymarket.com/event/will-spacex-acquire-cursor https://polymarket.com/event/spacex-ipo-by https://x.com/ttunguz/status/2046815725285945820 https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2032201568335044978 https://www.reuters.com/business/thoma-bravo-nears-agreement-turn-software-firm-medallia-over-creditors-source-2026-04-22 https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-04-02/blackstone-squeezes-thoma-bravo-and-its-ailing-software-company-medallia https://x.com/Benioff/status/2044981547267395620 https://www.apple.com/leadership/john-ternus https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-04-21/apple-bets-new-ceo-john-ternus-will-bring-back-jobs-era-decisiveness https://polymarket.com/event/next-ceo-of-apple https://x.com/joecarlsonshow/status/2046349686253265302 https://x.com/nickshirleyy/status/2043756610955423782 https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/federal-grand-jury-charges-southern-poverty-law-center-wire-fraud-false-statements-and https://www.justice.gov/opa/media/1437146/dl https://www.vice.com/en/article/2014-vice-news-awards-the-most-offensive-tweet-ubers-white-privilege https://x.com/nickshirleyy/status/2043756610955423782 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-026-04342-5