<p>In this episode of Tomorrow Comes Today, Matt and Rob are joined by technologist Azeem Azhar, writer Karla Starr and social engineer Jenny Radcliffe to discuss the importance of accessing a new way of thinking in which our minds must be clear of the panic of the here and now, in order to help us plan for the problems of the future. </p><br><p>Please subscribe wherever you get your podcasts and go to sjp.co.uk/tctpodcast to find out more. </p><br><p>Presenters: Rob Gardner, Matt Potter</p><p>Producer: Sera Berksoy</p><p>Editing: Nathan Copelin</p><p>Assistant Producers: James Busby, Stuart Knott, James Lawrence</p><br /><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>