<p>Chris Messina co-produced the Bon Iver records 22, a Million and I,i, among dozens more by other artists. This is a bonus of sorts before we finish up at <em>SABLE, fABLE</em>. </p><p>Chris and I casually talk about records made on unconventional instruments, exaggerated narratives around <em>22, a Million</em>, turning April Base into a proper studio, living in Eau Claire for nine years, using gear incorrectly, adapting these kinds of songs live, big-ass headphones, finishing a record in Texas, a quick pop-punk diversion, and more. </p><p><strong></strong><a href="https://www.messinachris.com/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer"><strong>https://www.messinachris.com/</strong></a><strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong><a href="patreon.com/afterthedeluge" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer"><strong>patreon.com/afterthedeluge</strong></a><strong></strong></p><p><a href="instagram.com/routinelayup" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer"><strong>instagram.com/routinelayup</strong></a></p>