In Part 2 of Gary’s discussion with former detective Dr Vince Hurley and reformed prisoner Claude Robinson on I Catch Killers, the unlikely duo pull back the curtain on a justice system that is failing victim survivors, perpetrators, and the public alike. They argue that the current approach to tackling domestic violence is little more than a "ten-billion-dollar business" that prioritises prison beds over prevention. However, they may have a solution.  This episode contains descriptions of men’s violence against women. If you or anyone you know needs support or information, contact 1800 RESPECT on 1800 737 732. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.