From Baptism of Fire to Michelin LeadershipThis week on Hospitality Meets, Phil sits down with Douglas Balish - Executive Chef and Director at Grove of Narberth, Hotel Chef of the Year, and a man shaped by some of the toughest kitchens in the business.From washing dishes in Ayrshire…To getting “pans thrown at his head”To learning to run in kitchens where nobody walked…To leading his own Michelin starred brigadeAnd all of the lessons that come with thatThis is a candid episode about pressure, humility, growth — and the fine line between breaking someone and building them.In This EpisodeStarting out as a 15 year old dishwasher in ScotlandWalking away from university to chase kitchens insteadThe brutal reality of early Michelin kitchensWhy some pressure builds you, and some destroys youTaking demotions to grow fasterWorking at Bohemia and being completely out of his depthThe intensity of Whatley ManorMoving to Australia to work at QuayWhy leadership is not one size fits allCreating dishes when nobody’s ever let you create beforeBaptism of FireDouglas doesn’t sugarcoat it. His early Michelin experience was brutal.80-hour weeks.Staff accommodation from hell.Being told he was useless.Working until nothing fazed him.And yet, he doesn’t look back with bitterness.He looks back with perspective.Because for him, that pressure didn’t break him.It sharpened him.Not because bullying is good (Obviously) but because understanding why something is happening mattersThe Psychology of KitchensThere’s a fascinating thread in this episode. Douglas nearly studied psychology. Instead, he learned it in kitchens.He talks openly about:Realising he wasn’t as good as he thoughtBeing publicly humbledBeing dropped down the ranksTaking ownership instead of walking awayAnd most importantly, how that shaped the leader he is today.He’s clear:Management isn’t one-size-fits-all.Some chefs need an arm around them.Some need structure.Some need challenge.The job is knowing the difference.From Scotland to SydneyHis journey takes him through:JerseyThe CotswoldsAustraliaBack to the UK to run his own restaurantAt Quay, he experienced world stage dining, huge covers, relentless precision, global recognition.At smaller, creative restaurants, he discovered something else:The kitchen has to suit the chef.Because even talent struggles in the wrong environment.Leadership NowToday, at Grove of Narberth, Douglas does things differently.Yes, standards are high.Yes, precision matters.But:Young chefs are encouraged to createIdeas are tested safelyFeedback is constructiveGrowth is intentionalBecause he remembers what it felt like to be thrown in without support.And he’s determined to build strength, not just resilience.Stand-Out Reflection“At some point you’ve got to become head chef”"And when you do — you’d better know who you are"This episode is honest, Unfiltered, and full of insight for anyone leading teams under pressureShow PartnersA big shout out to the first of today’s show partner, RotaCloud, the people management platform for shift-based teams.RotaCloud lets managers create and share rotas, record attendance, and manage annual leave in minutes — all from a single, web-based app.It makes work simple for your team, too, allowing them to check their rotas, request holiday, and even pick up extra shifts straight from their phones.Try RotaCloud’s time-saving tools today by heading to https://rotacloud.com/philThis podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Podcorn - https://podcorn.com/privacy