The Thriving Lawyers Podcast

Folks, this may be the closest to a "Smartless" vibe that Michael and I ever get.  Wide ranging witty banter, curious tales from the practice of law, insider intel from the fast-moving big-dealing VC world, and practical points to ponder for life and how to live it.  Join us for a delightful 4 way conversation with these two lawyers/authors/entrepreneurs/venture capitalists, with a fresh take on  on the Power of Perspective, the powerful life lessons of failing and trying again, the key ingredients of meaningful mentoring, and the importance of how we show up in every role, relationship, or project.  Their  new book is called How to Be a Lawyer:  The Path From Law School to Success, and it's available... well, you know where (and they don't pay us to say their behemoth corporate name.)

Y'all, these millennials keep teaching me all kinds of stuff.  Patrick Patino is a small firm practice renegade, thought leader, and pioneer. Like many of his peers, the statement "That's the way we've always done it" gets no traction with him. He has a passion for providing excellent client service in a way that  is more efficient and affordable for the clients, and more sustainable for the professionals providing the services. Pair that with some tech-savvy and an infectious creative energy, and yo have a stellar example of a different way to thrive in the practice of law.   Enjoy! (And please forgive the lack of a polished intro--this was another "get-to-know-you call" that had to become a podcast! :-)  ) You can find Patrick and keep up with him here: https://patinoking.com/

Y'all, these millennials keep teaching me all kinds of stuff.  Patrick Patino is a small firm practice renegade, thought leader, and pioneer.   Like many of his peers, the statement "That's the way we've always done it" gets no traction with him.  He has a passion for providing excellent client service in a way that  is more efficient and affordable for the clients, and more sustainable for the professionals providing the services.    Pair that with some tech-savvy and an infectious creative energy, and yo have a stellar example of a different way to thrive in the practice of law.   Enjoy!   (And please forgive the lack of a polished intro--this was another "get-to-know-you call" that had to become a podcast! :-)  ) You can find Patrick and keep up with him here: https://patinoking.com/

Meet my new friend. Owen McGrann.  A self-identified "Entrepreneur & Troublemaker" who manages not 1 but 2 successful small law firms. Learn how he got there after trying hard NOT to go to law school, making a go successful of it as a BigLaw associate, and navigating a health crisis that LITERALLY freed his mind and helped him re-establish his priorities. 

Folks, it just doesn't get any better than this.  There aren't sufficient words to describe how relatable, inspiring, brilliant, encouraging, and delightful our friend Jordana Confino is.  You may think YOU are a successful Type A Perfectionist, but chances are, you've got NOTHING on this double-Yalie, clerkship-getting superstar.  She was hitting all the hot-spots on the highway to success and getting all the rings & accolades we are primed for in law practice--and yet she somehow realized that she wanted something completely different. The realization nearly wrecked her, as she shares in this lively discussion with Chris, but there's more to the story, and it has a  more-than-happy ending. Her course correction brought her a whole new level of joy and career satisfaction, but even better, her law students at Fordham University School of Law and her coaching clients are reaping the benefits and dividends as well.  And yes, this should be a 2 parter--but you know what, y'all have "pause "buttons, right?  :-) * Jordana's Coaching Website: https://www.jordanaconfino.com/ * Subscribe to Jordana's Blog, Chronicles of a Recovering Type A+ Perfectionist: https://www.jordanaconfino.com/newsletter-sign-up * Values Discovery Guide: https://www.jordanaconfino.com/values * Jordana LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jordanaconfino/