In this episode of The Listening Porch, we explore a beautiful metaphor:
Writing feels like walking through a forest, looking for the sea.

Ray and Eric talk about:
- How writing, creativity, and spiritual life mirror a long forest journey
- Why wonder is essential, especially in the “ordinary” seasons
- Why there’s no such thing as writer’s block
- The difference between getting lost and being lost
- The art of digging for treasure right where you are
- How the forest eventually opens to revelation, like stepping into a clearing and finally seeing the sea

Ray shares stories from his childhood, lessons from his well-digger father, and how a life of amazement can make a life amazing.
Eric reflects on growing up in Bakersfield, learning to find gold in unlikely places, and staying faithful on the path—step after step.

This episode is for:
• Writers
• Musicians
• Creatives
• Seekers
• Anyone who feels “lost,” stuck, or in a gray season
• Anyone longing to rediscover wonder