<p>A conversation between Rafael Behr and writer and broadcaster David Aaronovitch, about ripples from the pandemic that still shape politics, with a digression on the ways that Britain is not America and whether that makes 'Maga-populism' less contagious.</p><br><p><strong>Links</strong></p><br><p>David Aaronovitch's substack - https://davidaaronovitch.substack.com</p><br><p>BBC's Briefing Room presented by David Aaronovitch - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m002bj77</p><br><p>This is a <a href="https://rafaelbehr.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Behr</a> and <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/philipberman/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Berman</a> podcast production</p><p><br></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>