Beyond the Canopy
Beyond the Canopy

Beyond the Canopy

OpenForests

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Welcome to Beyond the Canopy — the podcast by OpenForests, where nature takes center stage. From climate finance to forest technologies, from policies to on-the-ground impact — we bring you bold conversations with those shaping the future of nature restoration and conservation.

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250M Trees and a Search Engine That Refuses to Cash Out: ECOSIA
APR 21, 2026
250M Trees and a Search Engine That Refuses to Cash Out: ECOSIA
What happens when a search engine gives up its right to ever profit and puts every euro into restoring the planet instead?In this episode, host Alexander Watson sits down with Christian Kroll, founder and CEO of Ecosia, and Pieter van Midwoud, Ecosia's Tree Planting Officer, just days before the company celebrates a landmark milestone: 250 million trees growing across more than 40 countries.But this conversation goes well beyond the number.Christian unpacks why he legally signed away his shares to a purpose foundation - making Ecosia unsellable and profit-free for individuals - and why he's now building Europe's first independent search index as a matter of geopolitical sovereignty. With US big tech dominance increasingly weaponizable, Ecosia may be quietly becoming critical digital infrastructure for the free world.Pieter pulls back the curtain on what 250 million trees actually means on the ground: 80% survival rates, 2,000 native species, independent audits by botanical gardens, satellite monitoring, and a portfolio that deliberately keeps 50% of projects in the hardest-to-finance category because some ecosystems can't wait for a business case.Together, they explore:How Ecosia's circular funding model reinvests returns from agroforestry and renewable energy back into restorationWhy carbon markets alone will never solve nature finance and what stable, non-speculative funding actually looks likeThe parallel between the energy transition and land use: where regenerative agriculture is today, and what needs to shiftWhat project developers need to know to connect with Ecosia's tree planting programWhy eating less meat and switching your default search engine are two of the most underrated climate actions available right nowThis episode is for nature project developers, corporate sustainability teams, impact investors, and anyone who wants to understand how technology and landscape restoration can work together, not against each other.
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57 MIN