Enjoyed our podcast? Shoot us a text and let us know—because great conversations never end at the last word!This week on TezTalks Radio, host Brandon Langston sits down with Ryan Tanaka, a longtime builder in the Tezos art ecosystem behind projects like TEIA, teia.cafe, and Tezcon.The conversation starts with a moment many remember, when Hic et Nunc shut down. For some, that was the end. For others, including Ryan, it became the reason to rebuild.🎙️ This episode explores what it actually takes to keep a creative ecosystem alive when the platform disappears.🔍 In this episode, we explore: Why Ryan chose to rebuild after Hic et Nunc instead of moving on  How fragmentation across tools like teia.cafe created real friction for users  Why music and on-chain media remain under-discovered on Tezos  What it’s like to build and ship features inside a DAO  Why simple ideas like wallet-to-wallet messaging are harder than they seem  What’s still missing for artists in the space today  How builders stay motivated through quieter market cycles  Whether decentralized platforms can avoid the same patterns as Web2  Why the Tezos art community has endured while others faded