With many borders shut and thousands of planes grounded, international travel has come sliding to a halt over the past couple of months.

Eulanda Osagiede is a travel writer, photographer and co-founder of travel and lifestyle website Hey, Dip Your Toes In and in this episode she joins me to discuss how the travel industry has been impacted, and how people like her and her husband Omo who rely on it functioning are adapting to the changes.

Eulanda and Omo engage in and discuss all kinds of cultural interactions on the HDYTI blog and have written extensively about the Black Lives Matter movement and especially how they feel people can be allies to black people at this time. So we also took some time to talk about the #BLM movement and why it's so important that the travel industry - and wider society as a whole - confronts its prejudices.

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