We caught up with Damien Roach, aka patten, aka 555-5555, to discuss the need for new language to navigate the abstract implications of machine learning for our understanding of art, and the limitations of the modernist approach. We also eventually get around to discussing his beautiful new record "Mirage FM" created in part with Riffusion, a text-to-audio model.Follow Damien: https://twitter.com/patttten / https://www.instagram.com/pattttenBuy "Mirage FM": https://patttten.bandcamp.com/album/mirage-fm