Send a textWhat a way to close out the year! Our final episode of Hiring University for 2025 just dropped, and we’re finishing strong with none other than Ryan McNair, VP of Workday VNDLY Services at Helios Consulting.Ryan has forgotten more about VMS platforms than most of us know, or however that phrase goes.😄 Point is, the guy’s been in the game for nearly two decades, and it shows.From VMS innovation to AI hype vs. reality, self-managed programs, integrations, data transparency, and even the Broncos’ Super Bowl dreams… this conversation delivered. 💥Ryan and I break down: Why the VMS world has exploded with vendors  Where companies underestimate complexity  Why SaaS and integrations are the real game-changers  The truth about “AI” in VMS right now  What the next 5 years should look like … and of course, some career wisdom we can all use heading into 2026.If you touch contingent labor, technology, or talent strategy, or want a smart, real, no-BS perspective, this one is a must-listen. For more Hiring University episodes tune into your favorite podcast player or visit us at www.ursusinc.com