Scaling Nerds | Startup Marketing, Fundraising and Sales

Marina Schmidt

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Scaling Nerds (prev. Red to Green) helps science and tech founders master communication skills needed for VC-backed growth, covering the nuts and bolts of startup marketing, sales and fundraising. Ranked in the top 5% globally, with listeners in 160+ countries, Scaling Nerds is a top podcast for founders who want to raise money, build their founder brands or close corporate sales. Hosted by startup communications advisor Marina Schmidt. Scaling Nerds is a premier podcast for deep tech startup founders featuring storytelling for technical and science-driven companies.

Recent Episodes

OCT 14, 2026
17. Customer Discovery Interviews Mislead You: Test Buyer Pull Instead – with Rob Snyder
Customer discovery is the one piece of startup advice everyone repeats, and it can still steer you straight into the iceberg. You spend dozens or even hundreds of hours talking to customers, find a burning problem and build the fix. Then nobody pays. What if the problem was never the point, and the real question is who would be weird not to buy from you? Rob Snyder is a Harvard Business School grad, former McKinsey consultant and author of The Power of Pull. He teaches and advises founders at Harvard. You get his PULL framework (Project, Unavoidable, List of options, Limitations) and learn why polite feedback like "this is really impressive" is a soft no. You hear how an eBay security chief said a tool would save $40 million a year and still did not buy, how Wiz began by asking CISOs what they would pay for, and how Rob's own company hit $1M ARR on spreadsheets. Plus the four questions that turn a discovery call into a demand diagnosis, and why deep tech founders should pre-sell before the lab work is done. LINKS Could use a strategic advisor on your communications and founder branding? Work with Marina at https://www.scalingnerds.com/ Marina Schmidt (host) on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/schmidt-marina/ Rob Snyder (guest) on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rsnyder1/ Rob Snyder's website: https://robsnyder.org/ The Power of Pull by Rob Snyder: https://robsnyder.org/book The Heart of Innovation: https://www.amazon.de/-/en/Heart-Innovation-Navigating-Authentic-Demand/dp/152300570X Wiz: https://www.wiz.io/ Clay: https://www.clay.com/ Oversubscribed by Daniel Priestley: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0857086197 CHAPTERS 00:00 - Customer discovery vs the PULL framework 03:34 - How to sell to corporates: find the internal champion 06:05 - Buying signals: why polite feedback is a no 10:46 - Why customer discovery interviews fail and how to pre-sell deep tech 31:42 - From failed product to $1M ARR: Rob's story 38:52 - Sales call questions that replace customer discovery interviews ABOUT THIS EPISODE This startup podcast episode shows deep tech founders how to run customer discovery that ends in a sale, not in polite feedback. Rob Snyder explains the Pull framework, why interviews create the illusion of knowledge, and how to pre-sell before your product exists. You learn how to find the internal champion in a corporate account, read real buying signals and ask the Hail Mary question. Useful for anyone working on startup marketing, founder branding, startup storytelling, fundraising or a pitch deck that needs proof of real customer demand. KEYWORDS customer discovery, customer discovery interviews, pull framework, the power of pull, rob snyder, product market fit, pre-selling, sales calls, startup marketing, startup podcast, pitch deck, fundraising, deep tech founders, founder branding, startup storytelling
54 MIN
OCT 7, 2026
16. Market Sizing for Pitch Decks: Why TAM SAM SOM Is Costing You the Meeting – with Otto Pohl
Most investors skip your market sizing slide. Not because the number is too small, but because a $5 billion figure pulled off Statista tells them nothing about how you get your first customer. And when you claim 1% of a huge market, you quietly undercut the entire deck you just spent ten slides building. So what does a market slide that actually sells the business look like? Otto Pohl helps deep tech founders tell better company stories, with a focus on university spinouts. Former journalist, serial entrepreneur, head of communications for startups, and he has taught entrepreneurial communications at USC. In this episode he and Marina take apart the TAM SAM SOM habit and rebuild the market slide from the bottom up. You will hear why the same blood-analysis technology needs three completely different market pitches depending on whether you are talking to a medtech VC or to SoftBank, how a data center cooling startup found its one number by anchoring on PUE instead of the total market, why conquering Belgium can be a more convincing first move than claiming the world, and what changes in your market narrative between pre-seed and Series A. Plus the reason academic founders keep showing up to the beach in a tuxedo. LINKS Could use a strategic advisor on your communications and founder branding? Work with Marina at https://www.scalingnerds.com/ Marina Schmidt (host) on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/schmidt-marina/ Otto Pohl (guest) on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ottopohl Otto Pohl's website & biweekly newsletter: https://www.ottopohl.com/ Otto's consulting, Core Communications: https://www.ottopohl.com/services CHAPTERS 00:00 - What the market sizing slide is actually for 14:27 - Bottom-up market sizing: the numbers investors believe 41:02 - Picking your wedge: why a small first market wins 49:34 - Academic vs business communication: the tuxedo at the beach 54:15 - How market sizing changes from pre-seed to Series A ABOUT THIS EPISODE A practical guide to market sizing for startup pitch decks, built for deep tech and university spinout founders. Otto Pohl and Marina Schmidt cover TAM SAM SOM and its limits, bottom-up market sizing, how the market slide connects to your go-to-market strategy, choosing a beachhead market, and how investor expectations shift from pre-seed to Series A. Scaling Nerds is a startup podcast on communications, storytelling and PR for VC-backed founders raising their next round. KEYWORDS market sizing, tam sam som, pitch deck, market slide, bottom-up market sizing, go-to-market strategy, beachhead market, investor pitch, deep tech startup, university spinout, fundraising, startup marketing, startup storytelling, founder branding, startup podcast
57 MIN
APR 22, 2026
15. How AI is changing the media landscape & PR with former media journalist Steven Perlberg from Merantix Capital
The Future of Media, AI & Founder Visibility Guest: Steven PerlbergLinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/sperlberg/⁠ · Merantix Capital: ⁠https://www.merantix-capital.com⁠Head of Communications at Merantix Capital — Berlin-based VC investing in early-stage AI. Former reporter at WSJ, BuzzFeed News, and Business Insider covering media, tech, and politics. Happy to connect with journalists exploring life after reporting. Host: Marina SchmidtLinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/schmidt-marina/⁠ · Website: ⁠https://www.scalingnerds.com⁠Communications advisor helping science and tech founders get seen, heard, and backed — on stages, podcasts, and in the press. The media landscape is shifting fast — and as a founder, understanding that shift is no longer optional. Steven Perlberg, Head of Communications at Merantix Capital and former tech journalist at the Wall Street Journal, BuzzFeed News, and Business Insider, joins Marina to unpack what AI, fragmentation, and the death of the "mushy middle" mean for how founders should think about visibility, PR, and media strategy. Warning: this one gets philosophical. US vs. European tech media — The fundamental difference is size and reach. US outlets skew toward covering Silicon Valley companies, making it harder for European seed-stage startups to break through without a strong narrative hook, major fundraising news, or a US expansion angle. Steven's rule: define your goal first, then pick the outlets that match it. Why founders should pitch journalists directly — When Steven was a reporter, a direct email from a founder saying "I cover your space, want to grab coffee?" always got a yes. Today's version of the five-reporter shortlist might include a Substack writer or LinkedIn creator. Build those relationships personally, not through agencies. The AI slop problem — Faceless, generic AI content is flooding every channel. The counter-move: a growing premium on human faces and authentic voices. OpenAI's acquisition of tech news show TBPN for reportedly hundreds of millions signals exactly this. LLMs as the new search — If your audience is getting their news via AI tools instead of clicking TechCrunch, the tier of the outlet matters less than it used to. What matters is that your company and point of view exist across enough credible sources to be surfaced by LLMs. GEO is becoming as important as SEO. Opinions as the new gold — As information becomes a commodity, what becomes scarce and valuable is judgment, taste, and a distinctive point of view. Founders who show up consistently with a genuine perspective are positioned to become trusted, parasocial key opinion leaders in their space. The 10-80-10 rule for AI-assisted content — 10% you → 80% AI → 10% you again to edit, humanize, and make it sound like yourself. Prompt it to use your actual language from transcripts and speeches. Don't let it default to "momentum" and bullet points. Trust Me, I'm Lying — Ryan Holiday TBPN — live tech news show acquired by OpenAI ETN — European equivalent of TBPN
48 MIN
MAR 16, 2026
13. ⭐ Investor Updates: A Complete Founder Guide to Unlocking Support and Capital
Make your investor updates the highest-leverage tool to unlock intros, hires, and your next round. In this episode, you get a full, practical breakdown of how to write investor updates that actually work. We cover how to keep them fast and simple, what to include (and what to leave out), how to structure wins, losses, and asks, and how to turn a simple email into a system that builds trust, momentum, and fundraising advantage over time. Why investor updates are one of the most underused growth tools How to use updates to activate your investors (not just inform them) The ideal structure: reflection, highlights, metrics, wins/losses, asks How to balance transparency with confidence when things go wrong What changes from pre-seed → Series A and beyond How to keep updates short, readable, and high-signal When and how often to send them (and why consistency matters more than length) How to use updates during a live fundraising round to create momentum and FOMO Common mistakes: radio silence, overdesign, inconsistent formats, and bloated content Investor updates are not newsletters—they are operating tools “Radio silence is a kiss of death” → consistency builds trust Investors want both wins and problems—and how you handle them Short, structured, and regular beats long and sporadic Your asks are the leverage point—don’t bury them A strong update builds a track record over time, not just a snapshot Daniel Ruben’s article on investor updates (Solvable Syndicate): https://www.solvablesyndicate.com Newsletter platforms: https://www.beehiiv.com https://mailchimp.com Writing reference: On Writing Well by William Zinsser FoodTech Weekly newsletter: https://www.foodtechweekly.com Solvable Syndicate: https://www.solvablesyndicate.com LinkedIn: (link in episode description) ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/schmidt-marina/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [email protected] Could use some help with your comms? Check out ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.wearekinetik.com/⁠ Scaling Nerds helps science and tech founders master the communication skills behind fundraising, hiring, and growth—so you can scale faster without relying on luck. Keywords Investor updates, startup investor communication, founder communication strategy, fundraising strategy, startup fundraising tips, venture capital communication, investor relations startups, startup growth strategy, founder updates, startup metrics reporting, pre-seed startup advice, seed stage fundraising, Series A preparation, startup storytelling, founder transparency, startup email strategy, investor engagement, startup accountability, startup communication systems, scaling a startup, deep tech founders, startup leadership communication
43 MIN
MAR 11, 2026
12. ⭐ Quick Tip: The Voice Technique to Signal Authority and Create Trust with Marina Schmidt
Your voice communicates leadership long before your words do. In this solo episode of Scaling Nerds, Marina Schmidt explores a subtle but powerful communication skill most founders never think about: vocal placement. Links Connect with the host: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/schmidt-marina/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [email protected] Could use some help with your comms? Work with Marina via ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.wearekinetik.com/⁠⁠ Why do some people instantly sound trustworthy, calm, and authoritative — while others unintentionally sound nervous, strained, or less confident than they actually are? The answer often lies in where the voice is coming from in the body. Drawing from vocal training, podcasting experience, and hundreds of founder conversations, Marina explains how founders can use their voice more intentionally when pitching investors, speaking on stage, or leading teams. You will learn how different vocal placements — from head voice to chest voice to belly voice — affect how others perceive your confidence, credibility, and presence. Most importantly, Marina shares simple exercises you can use before an important presentation or pitch to ground your voice and project calm authority. If you are a technical founder who wants to sound as credible as the work you are building, this episode will help you become more aware of the leadership signal hidden in your voice. In This Episode Why the voice of a pilot can instantly calm nervous passengers The concept of vocal placement and why it matters for founders The five common places people speak from: head, mouth, throat, chest, and belly Why chest and belly voice create more authority and trust The difference between speaking loudly and projecting your voice How vocal strain and sore throats reveal poor vocal placement A simple breathing exercise to ground your voice before a pitch or presentation Why smiling slightly while speaking can make your voice sound warmer How founders can consciously train their voice for leadership presence Your voice shapes first impressions. Before people process your ideas, they interpret your vocal tone, grounding, and confidence. Authority is often a physical phenomenon. Speaking from the chest or belly creates a grounded vocal tone that naturally communicates credibility. Projection is not about volume. It is about directing your voice so it carries through a room without strain. Warmth can be heard. Even a subtle smile changes the vocal pattern and makes a speaker sound more approachable. Before an important pitch or presentation: Find a private space. Place your hands on your lower back. Lean slightly backward in a gentle backbend. Take slow deep belly breaths. This activates the diaphragm and helps move your voice into a more grounded register. Key TakeawaysPractical Exercise From This EpisodeWho This Episode Is For
16 MIN