The Josh Bersin Company
The Josh Bersin Company

The Josh Bersin Company

Josh Bersin

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Insider Insights on Corporate Talent, Learning, and HR Technology, with analyst perspectives, executive interviews, and in-depth vendor analysis.

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                    When Given Ultimate Power, Does AI Become Evil? (and Anthropic vs. War Dept.)
MAR 1, 2026
When Given Ultimate Power, Does AI Become Evil? (and Anthropic vs. War Dept.)
This week I discuss the real possibility that AI Agents could “turn evil” citing the example of Scott Shambaugh, a software engineer, who was attacked by an OpenClaw agent called MJ Rathbun. Just so you understand: Scott is a real person but MJ Rathbun is an AI. Yet MJ took upon itself to openly attack Scott online, presumably for not accepting his open source code. It’s a fascinating (ongoing) story, but it begs a bigger question: when a “human” (or agent) has total authority and power, does it then become evil? We saw this in the famous Stanford Prisoner Experiment, at Abu Ghraib, and in other examples I cite. Does this strange human nature translate directly into AI? As you’ll hear, these new findings deliver many lessons for our corporate AI systems, and I explain how the issues of AI training, governance, and ethics become real. And this brings up the issue of AI regulation, legal accountability, and who is responsible for these behaviors. Much of this is being played out in real time in the US War Department vs. Anthropic happening in the press as well. Despite my most optimistic opinions about AI, “Power Corrupts” may be a statement that applies to AI just as it does to humans. As AI becomes more embedded in enterprise decision-making, thoughtful governance, ethical design, and continuous monitoring become urgent. Additional Resources An AI Agent Published A Hit Piece on Me The Rise of the Bratty Machines (NYT) When AI Bots Start Bullying Humans, Even Silicon Valley Gets Rattled (WSJ) BBC Finds That 45% of AI Queries Produce Erroneous Answers Anthropic CEO says he’s sticking to AI “red lines” despite clash with Pentagon OpenAI Steps Into The Breach in US War Department  
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                    A Sneak Peek Under The Covers of AI-Fueled Recruiting, And Lots More
FEB 21, 2026
A Sneak Peek Under The Covers of AI-Fueled Recruiting, And Lots More
This week I explain some of the very cool things going on in AI-Fueled Recruiting (hot space), and also discuss how to start integrating all your talent acquisition tools. I also explain AMS One, the Workday Agent System of Record (ASOR), and why and how all these amazing AI agents are going to enable you to really rethink the operating model for talent acquisition. This is a trillion dollar space and we all deal with it, and it’s also the area of HR where AI is the most mature. And as I explain, every innovation that takes place in talent acquisition has an impact on tools for internal HR, job mobility, career development, and even learning. In fact TA and L&D really are going to get locked at the hip going forward. We will be launching our massive new research study on TA at Irresistible 2026, our flagship HR leadership conference in the world. It’s June 8-10 at the beautiful USC Campus in Los Angeles, and I promise you that you’ll see some amazing things there (including a tour of one of USC’s brand new research and arts centers). Also come see us at Unleash 2026 in Vegas where we’ll be doing workshops for you on Galileo, highlighting the newest release – these hands-on workshops give you 90 minutes to see dozens of amazing AI use-cases and also teach you how to use Galileo as your copilot, teacher, and consultant in all areas of HR. (And listen to my keynote explaining the way AI has already started to change everything about HR.) Like this podcast? Rate us on Spotify or Apple or YouTube. Additional Information 2026 Imperatives for Enterprise AI: The Road Ahead The Great Reinvention of Human Resources Has Begun Secrets Of The High Performing CHRO Get Galileo, The AI Agent for Everything HR  
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21 MIN