<description>&lt;p&gt;Joel is joined by author, commentator and advocate Heather McGhee, author of "The Sum of Us: What Racism Costs Everyone and How We Can Prosper Together." Joel and Heather discuss her book, the intersection with the January 6 insurrection on the Capitol and Tim Scott's recent comments. Here Comes the Payne is presented by PLAA Wear. Go to PressPLAA.com to learn more.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Follow the show @herecomesthepaynepod on Instagram and follow Joel on Twitter @paynedc.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>Joel is joined by author, commentator and advocate Heather McGhee, author of "The Sum of Us: What Racism Costs Everyone and How We Can Prosper Together." Joel and Heather discuss her book, the intersection with the January 6 insurrection on the Capitol and Tim Scott's recent comments. Here Comes the Payne is presented by PLAA Wear. Go to PressPLAA.com to learn more.&nbsp;</p>
<p>Follow the show @herecomesthepaynepod on Instagram and follow Joel on Twitter @paynedc.&nbsp;</p>


Here Comes the Payne

Heather McGhee on "The Sum of Us" and the Lessons of January 6

Heather McGhee on "The Sum of Us" and the Lessons of January 6

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