Join Connie Chen and Dr. Tamice Spencer-Helms for a rich conversation exploring hospice work as a powerful metaphor for helping whiteness face its own death and transformation. Together, we reflect on the sacred interconnectedness of birth and death, the vital role of embodiment in spiritual practice, and the possibility of resurrection that emerges when we embrace grief, ritual, and our shared humanity.In this episode, we explore:How the disembodiment of whiteness disconnects us from ourselves and how its death can open the door to a more authentic way of beingChoosing joy, depth, and meaningful impact over fame and performanceThe complex relationship between sin and shameCrying as part of the body’s natural, life-giving cycleHow post-Christian identity creates space for more expansive, honest conversations about faithWhy God cannot be contained by rigid categories. God is being itselfConnect with us:Dr. Tamice Spencer-Helms on InstagramConnie Chen on Instagram, TikTok, and YouTubeHelp sustain my work and this podcast on PatreonSupport the show