<p>Jason and Paul welcome Dead Pioneers' founder and vocalist Gregg Deal back to the show to discuss their new album <em>Wagon Burner</em>. Gregg discusses songwriting in the United States in 2026, educating versus entertaining and why it's not his responsibility for you to "get it". It's a great conversation fit for a commencement speech and anyone who wants to punch nazis. <em>Wagon Burner </em>is out June 26.</p><p><a href="https://solatpod-shop.fourthwall.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Buy Pod Merch</a></p><p><a href="https://www.patreon.com/SOLATpod?fan_landing=true" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Become a Patron</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzhbCQHVMyIA8gc11lAdNhw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Watch Us on YouTube</a></p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/stateofloveandtrust_pod/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Follow Us on Instagram</a></p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/SOLATpod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Follow Us on Facebook</a></p><p><a href="https://x.com/SOLATpod" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Follow us on X</a></p><br><p>Please take a short survey <a href="https://podcastsurvey.typeform.com/to/aeK1YE5c" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">HERE</a> to help us better the show!</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>