The latest episode of clown's conversation series features a discussion rooted in mentorship as the veteran shares a lifetime of rock wisdom with the emerging frontman.

0:00 - Bourbon & Festivals 
4:00 - clown's son, Simon turned him onto Knocked Loose 
6:10 - Garris shares how the band settled on their name 
7:14 - The Grateful Dead's song and cover band named "Slipknot. Slipknot attempted to change their name to Pig System - which didn't go over well
9:02 - 'You don't want a band name that's hard to tell people in the airport or to your grandma." 
10:00 - MELD 
11:10 - Common Ground in welding 
12:20 - Louisville Slugger rejects 
15:15 - Metal & hardcore to create something heavy 
17:10 - Freedom on genre 
20:50 - Label relationships 
23:00 - Gojira 
26:52 - Slipknot Staying Active 
33:22 - The family life trade-off 
43:20 - "Don't forget, you don't have to play the game." 
51:40 - "Slipknot has to be dysfunctional to be functional" 
55:59 - World of Warcraft to Fortnite
1:06:30 - Self-preservation in touring 
1:11:43 - Social Media