<p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.katiemadethat.com/&amp;sa=D&amp;source=editors&amp;ust=1661465308041567&amp;usg=AOvVaw2UcsSWkhHugnkg8zn4aW9A" target="_blank">Katie</a> &amp; <a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.ilanagriffo.com/&amp;sa=D&amp;source=editors&amp;ust=1661465308041599&amp;usg=AOvVaw28DWfjBsASKcqmS54qG0Kd" target="_blank">Ilana</a> are both the co-owners of the ultra-successful platform <a href="https://goodtype.us/" target="_blank">Goodtype</a> and creative freelancers, so you already know they have a ton of advice to give.<br> <br> Not only are they teaching you their best lessons on this episode, but they’re bringing you <a href="https://www.thekernference.com/?affiliate=drewmelton">The Kernference</a> so you can learn from their whole network! Also, did we mention our Founder &amp; CEO, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/drew-melton/">Drew Melton</a>, will be speaking at The Kernference?! Oh, yes! Get all the deets and more on this week's episode!&nbsp;</p> <p>You can follow <a href="https://www.instagram.com/katiemadethat/">Kaite</a> &amp; <a href="https://instagram.com/ilanagriffo">Ilana</a> on Instagram and GoodType <a href="https://www.instagram.com/goodtype/">here</a>!</p> <p>Hosted by <a href="https://www.instagram.com/catonjay/">Caton Vance</a> &amp; <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrea-mejia-madriz/" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Andrea Mejia-Madriz</a>.</p> <p>Podcast Art by <a href="https://dvclmn.com/" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Dave Coleman</a>.</p> <p>Sign up for <a href="https://mailchi.mp/closerandcloser/newsletter" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Dose</a>!</p> <p>To learn more about Closer&amp;Closer, visit <a href="https://closerandcloser.co/" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.closerandcloser.co</a>.</p> <p>Follow us on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/closerandcloserco/" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@closerandcloserco</a>!</p>