<p>Kate Bowler is the multiple <em>New York Times</em>-bestselling author, professor of divinity and stage-four cancer survivor who has mastered the art of finding small delights in the everyday. No grand gestures for her.&nbsp;</p><br><p>In this wonderful conversation with Katherine, they talk about ‘how to cope’, the brittleness of time and why revelling in absurdity is really the answer to everything. A celebration of silliness, tattoos, the important differences between canoes and kayaks and the most beautifully realised depiction of precious time spent with a best friend.</p><br><p>Links from the episode:&nbsp;</p><br><p>Kate’s new book <a href="https://uk.bookshop.org/p/books/joyful-anyway-finding-delight-in-impossible-times-kate-bowler/486e0050d89ce4b6?ean=9781037202568&amp;next=t" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Joyful Anyway</a></p><p>Kate’s website where you can find her previous books <a href="https://katebowler.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://katebowler.com/</a>&nbsp;</p><p>Kate’s podcast <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/everything-happens-with-kate-bowler/id1341076079" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Everything Happens</a></p><p>Kate’s <a href="https://www.instagram.com/katecbowler/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a></p><p><a href="https://uk.bookshop.org/p/books/a-truce-that-is-not-peace-miriam-toews/a59ea1c19b7fd72e?ean=9780008722883&amp;next=t&amp;gad_source=1&amp;gad_campaignid=20920067905&amp;gbraid=0AAAAABjGUH3bzzrLyEMsbuKIuWZ16zrez&amp;gclid=Cj0KCQjw_IXQBhCkARIsADqELbKTwvjjKihhhJBVuLgd6cwIyGB1xYfiqTFaiSfR6y-jy1QVAt-lfGoaAp_fEALw_wcB" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">A Truce that is Not Peace</a> by Miriam Toews&nbsp;</p><p><a href="https://blackwells.co.uk/bookshop/product/9780374534370?gC=5a105e8b&amp;gad_source=1&amp;gad_campaignid=23601462866&amp;gbraid=0AAAAADsTpAQRatsnHvwzVnuly4pMIbtdH&amp;gclid=Cj0KCQjw_IXQBhCkARIsADqELbJ9CMudoX16quxjva-DFDvolD8ws5FIRMyQn_P4qBX7ckvDQD1IsUkaAjkJEALw_wcB" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">My Bright Abyss</a> by Christian Wiman</p><p>Canadian ice fishing cabins <a href="https://www.smithsonianmag.com/travel/portraits-canadas-ice-fishing-huts-180957794/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.smithsonianmag.com/travel/portraits-canadas-ice-fishing-huts-180957794/</a>&nbsp;</p><br><p><br></p><p>Visit The Clearing website <a href="http://www.theclearingpod.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.theclearingpod.com</a> for a full transcript, to discover how to enjoy our bonus episodes, our ad free episodes and if you subscribe, how to submit your own idea for a dream retreat</p><p>Buy Katherine’s books:<a href="https://katherine-may.co.uk/enchantment" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> <em>Enchantment</em></a> |<a href="https://katherine-may.co.uk/wintering" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> <em>Wintering</em></a> | <em>The Electricity of Every Living Thing</em>:<a href="https://uk.bookshop.org/a/1124/9781409172512" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> UK</a> /<a href="https://bookshop.org/books/the-electricity-of-every-living-thing-a-woman-s-walk-in-the-wild-to-find-her-way-home/9781612199603" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> US</a></p><p>Follow Katherine on<a href="https://www.instagram.com/katherinemay_/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> Instagram</a></p><p>Visit Katherine’s<a href="https://katherine-may.co.uk/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> Website</a></p><br><p>Production Credits</p><br><p>Guest Booker and Admin Support - Meghan Hutchins</p><p>Substack Manager - Rebecca Armstrong</p><p>Producer - Alice Lloyd</p><p>Music - The Leaf Library @theleaflibrary</p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>