S11e12: Medical Panel – Healing, Hoffman, & Finding Safety Within
<p><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignright wp-image-26098" src="https://www.hoffmaninstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/The-MEDICAL-PANEL-Hoffman-Podcast-1024x1024.png" alt="The Medical Panel Hoffman Podcast Carrie Levine, David Hanscom, Kash Trivedi " width="367" height="367" srcset="https://www.hoffmaninstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/The-MEDICAL-PANEL-Hoffman-Podcast-1024x1024.png 1024w, https://www.hoffmaninstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/The-MEDICAL-PANEL-Hoffman-Podcast-300x300.png 300w, https://www.hoffmaninstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/The-MEDICAL-PANEL-Hoffman-Podcast-150x150.png 150w, https://www.hoffmaninstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/The-MEDICAL-PANEL-Hoffman-Podcast-768x768.png 768w, https://www.hoffmaninstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/The-MEDICAL-PANEL-Hoffman-Podcast-250x250.png 250w, https://www.hoffmaninstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/The-MEDICAL-PANEL-Hoffman-Podcast-350x350.png 350w, https://www.hoffmaninstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/The-MEDICAL-PANEL-Hoffman-Podcast-100x100.png 100w, https://www.hoffmaninstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/The-MEDICAL-PANEL-Hoffman-Podcast.png 1080w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 367px) 100vw, 367px" />Welcome to today’s episode with host Sadie and a medical panel of three <a href="https://www.hoffmaninstitute.org/the-process/">Hoffman Process</a> graduates who are also esteemed medical practitioners. Our host, Sadie, <strong>Carrie Levine</strong>, <strong>Dr. David Hanscom</strong>, and <strong>Dr. Kash Trivedi</strong> engage in this powerful conversation. They cover the connection between emotional health and physical health, the mind-body connection, finding the safety within needed to heal, and so much more.</p>
<p>With her background as a licensed Nurse Practitioner, Sadie guides the panel with insightful questions. Our guests answer through their embodied learning from both <a href="https://www.hoffmaninstitute.org/the-process/">the Process</a> and their many years of medical practice. They share insights on what it means to practice medicine with awareness, compassion, and the knowledge that can help guide their patients to deeper healing.</p>
<p>As the conversation goes deeper into the idea of healing needing a sense of safety, Sadie then asks the panel if we each can “<em>take responsibility for our inner experience of </em><span data-uuid="99ce0cb0-5619-4f0a-8bd4-c0d8734bc382" data-highlighted="false" data-playhead="false"><em>safety?</em>” Carrie responds, saying, <em>“I think we have to.</em></span> I don’t know that anybody else can do that for us. … I think it’s on us.”</p>
<p>We hope you enjoy this conversation with Carrie, Davide, Kash, and Sadie.</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #ff6600;">Please note:</span></strong><br />
While this conversation is about medicine, healing, and health, please note that <span data-uuid="ee44f2c5-e41f-4b75-7f41-a157991c8abd" data-highlighted="false" data-playhead="false">what</span> <span data-uuid="e6a7ee14-3ba1-8640-415e-158ee4d92a15" data-highlighted="false" data-playhead="false">is</span> <span data-uuid="9b47c605-cf06-cd2d-3392-e3a19ddb8bc6" data-highlighted="false" data-playhead="false">shared</span><span data-uuid="6b3cb973-3d31-845a-35c2-c812ba1a36d7" data-highlighted="false" data-playhead="false"> here </span>is strictly for informational purposes only and should not be considered medical advice. Please always seek the guidance of your physician or any other qualified health professional with any questions you have regarding your health or medical condition.</p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0e2d6d;">More about Carrie E. Levine:</span></h3>
<p data-olk-copy-source="MessageBody"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-26107 alignleft" src="https://www.hoffmaninstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/carrie-levine-Hoffman-Podcast-2.png" alt="Carrie E Levine Hoffman Podcast" width="250" height="316" srcset="https://www.hoffmaninstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/carrie-levine-Hoffman-Podcast-2.png 500w, https://www.hoffmaninstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/carrie-levine-Hoffman-Podcast-2-237x300.png 237w, https://www.hoffmaninstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/carrie-levine-Hoffman-Podcast-2-350x442.png 350w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 250px) 100vw, 250px" />Carrie E. Levine, CNM, IFMCP, is the founder of the <a href="https://carrielevine.com/clinic">Whole Woman Health clinic</a>. She is the author of<a href="https://carrielevine.com/book"> <em>Whole Woman Health: A Guide to Creating Wellness for Any Age and Stage</em></a>. A certified nurse midwife and Institute for Functional Medicine Certified Practitioner, Carrie evaluates and treats the most common women’s health concerns by integrating gynecology and functional medicine. For more than two decades, Carrie has worked to help women find wholeness, connecting physical symptoms and test results with lifestyle choices and daily practices.</p>
<p>Previously, Carrie practiced gynecology and functional medicine at the renowned <a href="https://www.womentowomenhealthcarecenter.com/">Women to Women clinic in Maine</a> (2006–2014). Before that, she provided full-scope midwifery at Miles Memorial Hospital (now Maine Health Lincoln) in Damariscotta, Maine. Patients know Carrie for her deep listening, “connecting the dots” among seemingly unrelated symptoms and emotions, and breaking personal health goals into attainable steps so clients can thrive emotionally, spiritually, and physically. Carrie earned a BS from Syracuse University. She has an RN and MSN from Case Western Reserve University. Carrie earned a Nurse-Midwifery certificate from what is now the Frontier Nursing University. She is a member of ACNM (national and Maine chapters), the Maine Nurse Practitioners Association, and the Institute for Functional Medicine.</p>
<p>Sign up for Carrie’s free weekly newsletters featuring recipes, podcasts, articles, and more at<span data-olk-copy-source="MessageBody"> </span><a title="https://carrielevine.com/" href="https://carrielevine.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" data-auth="NotApplicable" data-linkindex="1">https://carrielevine.com</a>. Follow Carrie on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/carrielevine.cnm/">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.facebook.com/CarrieLevine.cnm">Facebook</a>, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/carrie-levine-cnm/">LinkedIn</a>, and <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@CarrieLevineCNM/">YouTube</a>.</p>
<h3><span style="color: #0e2d6d;">More about Dr. David Hanscom:</span></h3>
<p><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignright wp-image-26109" src="https://www.hoffmaninstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/David-Hanscom-Hoffman-Podcast.jpg" alt="Dr. David Hanscom Hoffman Podcast" width="251" height="330" srcset="https://www.hoffmaninstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/David-Hanscom-Hoffman-Podcast.jpg 500w, https://www.hoffmaninstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/David-Hanscom-Hoffman-Podcast-228x300.jpg 228w, https://www.hoffmaninstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/David-Hanscom-Hoffman-Podcast-350x461.jpg 350w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 251px) 100vw, 251px" />David Hanscom, MD, practiced complex orthopedic spine surgery for 32 years. He quit his practice in Seattle, WA, to present his insights into solving chronic mental and physical pain. They evolved from his own 15-year battle. David escaped from the ordeal and discovered that mental pain was the biggest issue. Anxiety is the pain. His new book, <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Calm-Your-Body-Heal-Mind/dp/1645023400">Calm Your Body, Heal Your Mind: Transcend Pain, Anxiety, Anger, and Repetitive Unwanted Thoughts</a>, is scheduled for release in June 2026. By understanding the neurophysiology driving unwanted thoughts and stimulating neuroplastic changes, they can be addressed and resolved.</p>
<p>David’s book, <a href="https://backincontrol.com/book/back-in-control-a-spine-surgeons-roadmap-out-of-chronic-pain/?v=0b3b97fa6688">Back in Control: A Surgeon’s Roadmap Out of Chronic Pain</a>, systematically presents well-documented treatments for chronic pain. His self-directed action plan, which reflects the journeys of many successful patients, is available at www.thedocjourney.com.</p>
<p>David launched a movement called “Dynamic Healing.” This movement recognizes the interactions between stress and one’s coping capacity, which leads to sustained threat physiology. Dealing with stress more effectively and increasing the nervous system’s resilience promotes healing. David is an active speaker, author, and consultant. Discover more about his work and resources at <a href="https://backincontrol.com/about/?v=0b3b97fa6688">www.backincontrol.com</a>.</p>
<p><strong>David’s articles:</strong><br />
• <a href="https://www.painnewsnetwork.org/stories/2018/6/5/why-im-leaving-spine-surgery">Why I’m Leaving Spine Surgery</a><br />
• <a href="https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/anxiety-another-name-for-pain/202106/dynamic-healing-the-new-paradigm-medicine-needs">Dynamic Healing – The New Paradigm Medicine Needs</a></p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0e2d6d;">More about Dr. Kash Trivedi:</span></h3>
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<p dir="ltr"><span data-olk-copy-source="MessageBody"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="wp-image-21342 alignleft" src="https://www.hoffmaninstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/Dr-Kash-Trivedi-Hoffman-Podcast.jpeg" alt="Dr. Kash Trivedi Hoffman Podcast" width="250" height="334" srcset="https://www.hoffmaninstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/Dr-Kash-Trivedi-Hoffman-Podcast.jpeg 768w, https://www.hoffmaninstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/Dr-Kash-Trivedi-Hoffman-Podcast-225x300.jpeg 225w, https://www.hoffmaninstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/Dr-Kash-Trivedi-Hoffman-Podcast-350x467.jpeg 350w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 250px) 100vw, 250px" />Dr. Kash Trivedi is a gastroenterologist in private practice. His interest is in the intricate relationship between the gut and the brain—how that connection contributes not only to physical symptoms but also to overall well-being. Kash completed his medical degree at the University of California, San Diego. He went on to do his fellowship training at the University of California, Irvine. With over a decade of experience in clinical medicine, he often sees how stress, trauma, and emotional health may influence gastrointestinal disease.</span></p>
<p dir="ltr">Outside of medicine, Dr. Trivedi has long been drawn to personal growth and self-inquiry, an interest that began in his teenage years. In January 2025, he completed <a href="https://www.hoffmaninstitute.org/the-process/">the Hoffman Process</a>, which he describes as the most transformational experience of his life. Kash lives in Southern California with his wife of over 20 years and their 10-year-old son. He continues to explore how emotional and psychological insight can enrich both his personal life and professional practice.</p>
<p dir="ltr"><a href="https://www.hoffmaninstitute.org/podcast/s11e2-dr-kash-trivedi/">Kash Trivedi on the Hoffman Podcast: I Am My Own Resource</a></p>
<h3><span style="color: #0e2d6d;">More about Sadie Hannah (Host):</span></h3>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span class="markghi76qe3h" data-markjs="true" data-ogac="" data-ogab="" data-ogsc="" data-ogsb="" data-olk-copy-source="MessageBody"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignright wp-image-25231" src="https://www.hoffmaninstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/Sadie-Hannah-Hoffman-Podcast-783x1024.jpg" alt="" width="176" height="230" srcset="https://www.hoffmaninstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/Sadie-Hannah-Hoffman-Podcast-783x1024.jpg 783w, https://www.hoffmaninstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/Sadie-Hannah-Hoffman-Podcast-229x300.jpg 229w, https://www.hoffmaninstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/Sadie-Hannah-Hoffman-Podcast-768x1005.jpg 768w, https://www.hoffmaninstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/Sadie-Hannah-Hoffman-Podcast-350x458.jpg 350w, https://www.hoffmaninstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/Sadie-Hannah-Hoffman-Podcast.jpg 853w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 176px) 100vw, 176px" />Sadie</span> Hannah, MS, CPNP-AC, is a licensed Nurse Practitioner and a member of the medical staff at Stanford University with a background in pediatric oncology, pediatric end-of-life, and children’s cancer research. She is also a <a href="https://www.hoffmaninstitute.org/the-process/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" data-attrib-id="link-f2c73b92-b06c-4276-846d-606064e35c42">Hoffman Process</a> teacher, coach, and podcast host. <span class="markghi76qe3h" data-markjs="true" data-ogac="" data-ogab="" data-ogsc="" data-ogsb="">Sadie</span> Hannah holds a Master’s in Science from the University of California, San Francisco. After a 20-year history in Western medicine, she is now committed to helping clients move past their most fundamental challenges (learned behavior). Where neuroscience meets heart, <span class="markghi76qe3h" data-markjs="true" data-ogac="" data-ogab="" data-ogsc="" data-ogsb="">Sadie</span> works with individuals and groups. She guides her clients not outward but inward, toward the depths of their own being as they navigate important transitions in life, relationships, careers, and culture.</p>
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<h3><span style="color: #0e2d6d;">As mentioned in this episode:</span></h3>
<p><a href="https://www.heartmath.com/">HeartMath</a></p>
<p><a href="https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/broken-heart-syndrome/symptoms-causes/syc-20354617">Broken Heart Syndrome</a></p>
<p><a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18589562/">The mind-body connection</a></p>
<p><a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11494424/">Psycho somatic symptoms</a></p>
<p><a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6125096/#:~:text=are%20high%20utilizing.)-,Burden,11">MUS – Medically unexplained symptoms</a></p>
<p id="title" class="a-spacing-none a-text-normal"><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Way-Love-Meditations-Anthony-Classics/dp/038524939X"><span id="productTitle" class="a-size-large celwidget">The Way to Love: The Last Meditations of Anthony de Mello</span></a></p>
<p><a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26290469/">Therapeutic Reciprocity</a></p>
<p><strong>SOAP Notes:</strong><br />
<span class="N9Q8Lc">SOAP notes are </span>a four-part, structured format for documenting patient visits. The acronym stands for Subjective, Objective, Assessment, and Plan.<span class="N9Q8Lc"> They are used by healthcare providers to consistently and clearly record a patient’s health encounter. This format ensures all members of the care team have the same information about a patient’s condition and progress.</span><span class="uJ19be notranslate" data-wiz-uids="m9thvf_g,m9thvf_h"><span class="vKEkVd" data-animation-atomic=""> </span></span></p>
<h3><span style="color: #0e2d6d;">Hoffman terminology:</span></h3>
<p><a href="https://www.hoffmaninstitute.org/left-road-right-road-visualization/">Right Road/Left Road Visualization</a></p>
<p><em><strong>The Quadrinity:<br />
</strong></em>“I coined the word Quadrinity to represent the four aspects of a human being: the Emotional, Intellectual, Physical, and Spiritual. The unique capacities and functions of each aspect can be considered separately, but it is the balance of all aspects working together harmoniously that fulfills us as human beings.” – <a href="https://www.hoffmaninstitute.org/bob-hoffman/">Bob Hoffman, Founder of the Hoffman Process</a></p>
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