The Club

JUN 9, 202059 MIN
The Service

The Club

JUN 9, 202059 MIN

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<p>The Five Eyes is an intelligence alliance with roots that go all the way back to World War II. It's a tight club - but just what does membership demand of us? </p><p>To see more images and details about the series, vist the <a href="https://shorthand.radionz.co.nz/the-service-podcast/index.html">website here</a>.</p><p>As the Iron Curtain came down across Europe at the end of World War II and allies united against Nazism splintered into Capitalist and Communist camps, a fraternity of intelligence agencies was created, known as Five Eyes. It was a tight-knit club and one that demanded cooperation and loyalty.</p><p>The Five Eyes alliance was a group of countries whose leaders traditionally were, as former GCSB boss Sir Bruce Ferguson put it, White Anglo Saxon Protestants (WASPs). They shared a common world view. It began with a treaty between the United States and Britain, who were then joined by Canada, Australian and, in 1956, New Zealand.</p><p>Former Prime Minister and Attorney-General, Sir Geoffrey Palmer, says membership comes with obligations.</p><p>&quot;There is a sort of feeling that we have to earn our stripes, if you know what I mean. And so there&#x27;s that kind of pressure to be super cooperative&quot;.</p><p>Ferguson disagrees, but admits the relationship is &quot;intimate&quot;.</p><p>In Episode 4, Paul Buchanan, a former security analyst at US intelligence agencies and the New Zealand-based founder of 36th Parallel Assessments, says those shared bonds have been impervious to political disputes, such as the stoush over New Zealand&#x27;s nuclear-free policy. Former Prime Minister Helen Clark argues membership is a net positive, but is concerned we are once again getting too close to these traditional allies.</p><p>We look at how Russia&#x27;s efforts in New Zealand in the 1980s compare to their attempt to influence American elections in recent years, the Five Eyes&#x27; attempt to influence governments around the world and learn about Sir Bruce&#x27;s golf games with the CIA and FBI. And we get closer to the details of that raid on the Czechoslovakian embassy.</p><p><a href="https://www.rnz.co.nz/podcast/the-service?share=elf_audio_2018750019">Go to this episode on rnz.co.nz for more details</a></p>