Your team isn't broken. Their brains are just doing their job.

In this episode of Let's Go Win, JM sits down with Travis Hahler — executive advisor, keynote speaker, and author of Rethink Resistance: Embracing Neuroscience to Lead Transformational Change. Travis has guided change initiatives touching tens of thousands of employees at companies like Salesforce, and he's cracked the code on why smart, capable people resist, stall, and burn out during organizational shifts — and what leaders can actually do about it.

This is the conversation every leader needs before their next big change.

Key Takeaways:1. Resistance to change is biological — it's not a people problem, it's a brain problem2. Silence is never neutral — what you don't say, people fill in with fear3. The 3-part framework every change announcement needs4. Change takes 66–90 days — there is no shortcut5. All change is loss — the leaders who get this win every time6. Empathy and accountability aren't opposites — it's about sequencing them right7. How to bring people along instead of dragging them through

Timestamps:0:00 — Intro1:30 — Who is Travis Hahler? Background + Salesforce story5:00 — Why resistance to change is hardwired into the brain9:35 — The neuroscience behind why people fight change14:00 — Silence is never neutral — what ambiguity does to your team17:00 — The 3-part change announcement framework24:00 — How long change actually takes (the 66-day truth)31:00 — "All change is loss" — leading through grief38:00 — When empathy becomes accountability43:00 — Change applies at home too45:30 — Travis's book Rethink Resistance + how to connectIf you've ever pushed a change initiative and watched your best people disengage, burn out, or quietly go back to old habits — this episode is the answer you've been missing. Travis gives you the neuroscience and the playbook to lead change that actually sticks.

 Listen on all major platforms | letsgowin.com#LeadershipDevelopment #ChangeManagement #Neuroscience #LetsGoWin #ExecutiveCoaching #TeamLeadership #Podcast
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Let's Go Win Podcast

Host: JM Ryerson

The Real Reason Your Team Keeps Going Back to Old Habits | Travis Hahler

MAY 29, 202654 MIN
Let's Go Win Podcast

The Real Reason Your Team Keeps Going Back to Old Habits | Travis Hahler

MAY 29, 202654 MIN

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Your team isn't broken. Their brains are just doing their job. In this episode of Let's Go Win, JM sits down with Travis Hahler — executive advisor, keynote speaker, and author of Rethink Resistance: Embracing Neuroscience to Lead Transformational Change. Travis has guided change initiatives touching tens of thousands of employees at companies like Salesforce, and he's cracked the code on why smart, capable people resist, stall, and burn out during organizational shifts — and what leaders can actually do about it. This is the conversation every leader needs before their next big change. Key Takeaways:1. Resistance to change is biological — it's not a people problem, it's a brain problem2. Silence is never neutral — what you don't say, people fill in with fear3. The 3-part framework every change announcement needs4. Change takes 66–90 days — there is no shortcut5. All change is loss — the leaders who get this win every time6. Empathy and accountability aren't opposites — it's about sequencing them right7. How to bring people along instead of dragging them through Timestamps:0:00 — Intro1:30 — Who is Travis Hahler? Background + Salesforce story5:00 — Why resistance to change is hardwired into the brain9:35 — The neuroscience behind why people fight change14:00 — Silence is never neutral — what ambiguity does to your team17:00 — The 3-part change announcement framework24:00 — How long change actually takes (the 66-day truth)31:00 — "All change is loss" — leading through grief38:00 — When empathy becomes accountability43:00 — Change applies at home too45:30 — Travis's book Rethink Resistance + how to connectIf you've ever pushed a change initiative and watched your best people disengage, burn out, or quietly go back to old habits — this episode is the answer you've been missing. Travis gives you the neuroscience and the playbook to lead change that actually sticks. Listen on all major platforms | letsgowin.com#LeadershipDevelopment #ChangeManagement #Neuroscience #LetsGoWin #ExecutiveCoaching #TeamLeadership #Podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices