On this episode I am joined by the one and only Kris Blume, and it was a heavy dose of leadership discussion!We talked about what he means when he says “Carry the Fire” and “Serve the Work,” along with “The Quiet Damage of Destructive Leadership” and how “Burnout Isn’t Just the Job, It’s Leadership.” We also dove into “Data vs. Culture: What Actually Changes Behavior?” And "The Cost of Silence"As usual, we only got to a fraction of the topics. The questions from the audience came fast and often.