Ian talks to Death Cab For Cutie's Dave Depper about making a great rock record, the Gibbardian work ethic, his status as the Ron Wood of Death Cab, his induction into the band, going indie 30 years into a career, raging against the dying of the light, taking selfies with Mike Love and Al Jardine in the catering tent—plus a dispatch from the debut performance of Bob Dylan's Long Hot Summer 2026 Tour. FOLLOW DAVE ON INSTAGRAM LISTEN TO "I BUILT YOU A TOWER"