We walk the tightrope with Maggie Gyllenhaal. Come explore the edges of the mind: stacking wood, eating avocados, bird watching, and what is exercise? It’s fake learning for real… an all-new SmartLess. Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of SmartLess ad-free and a whole week early. Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.