<description>&lt;p&gt;On this episode Marc talks with organizer, educator, curator and NYT Best Selling Author Mariame Kaba sit down to discuss Mariame's new book; We Do This 'Til We Free Us: Abolitionist Organizing and Transforming Justice. The two unpack abolition organizing, the origins of the penitentiary, the prison industrial complex and what justice reform truly means.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>On this episode Marc talks with organizer, educator, curator and NYT Best Selling Author Mariame Kaba sit down to discuss Mariame's new book; We Do This 'Til We Free Us: Abolitionist Organizing and Transforming Justice. The two unpack abolition organizing, the origins of the penitentiary, the prison industrial complex and what justice reform truly means.</p>


Coffee and Books

Marc and Mariame Kaba discuss Mariame's book; We Do This 'Til We Free Us: Abolitionist Organizing and Transforming Justice

Marc and Mariame Kaba discuss Mariame's book; We Do This 'Til We Free Us: Abolitionist Organizing and Transforming Justice

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