15：画画让我得心应手，画画也叫我疲倦

JUN 21, 202279 MIN

15：画画让我得心应手，画画也叫我疲倦

JUN 21, 202279 MIN

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这里是拨瞪拨瞪，本期关于求职。我和萝卜咚是在大二那年认识的，当时我们一起参加了香蕉鱼书店举办的 Zine On 活动（<a target="_blank" style="color:#4990E2;text-decoration:none;">https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/3HVn_hh-j_f3D633J3aecQ</a>），此后我们一直见证和参与着彼此的成长。20年夏天，我毕业了。22年夏天，咚咚毕业了，首次面临找正式工作的人生课题。老实说，我很难给一个从没有坐过班又天赋异禀的插画师什么找工作的建议，我只是浅浅地对咚咚说：我觉得在自由市场里拥有无限潜力的只有两种人，一种是企业家，一种是艺术家。咚咚不愿意说自己是艺术家，但你知道的，她当然是。本期讲话的人：01 & 萝卜咚我们提到了：- 最近咚咚毕业后开始每天手绘画画<img data-key="0" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/fce7-audiofreehighqps/92/CE/GMCoOSEGhwW2AAd9PAFvAg-r.jpeg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/fce7-audiofreehighqps/92/CE/GMCoOSEGhwW2AAd9PAFvAg-r.jpeg?op_type=0" data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/fce7-audiofreehighqps/92/CE/GMCoOSEGhwW2AAd9PAFvAg-r.jpeg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" data-large-width="750" data-large-height="791.4999999999999" data-preview="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/fce7-audiofreehighqps/92/CE/GMCoOSEGhwW2AAd9PAFvAg-r.jpeg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_small" data-preview-width="140" data-preview-height="147.74666666666664"> - 咚咚画的女性主义题材<img data-key="1" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/203e-audiofreehighqps/F5/9B/GKwRIasGhwXWAATWywFvAiK8.jpeg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/203e-audiofreehighqps/F5/9B/GKwRIasGhwXWAATWywFvAiK8.jpeg?op_type=0" data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/203e-audiofreehighqps/F5/9B/GKwRIasGhwXWAATWywFvAiK8.jpeg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" data-large-width="750" data-large-height="499.85891647855533" data-preview="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/203e-audiofreehighqps/F5/9B/GKwRIasGhwXWAATWywFvAiK8.jpeg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_small" data-preview-width="140" data-preview-height="93.30699774266365"> - 咚咚画蔡明亮的海报<img data-key="2" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/3f12-audiofreehighqps/7E/47/GKwRIMAGhwXnACuyVgFvAiyK.jpeg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/3f12-audiofreehighqps/7E/47/GKwRIMAGhwXnACuyVgFvAiyK.jpeg?op_type=0" data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/3f12-audiofreehighqps/7E/47/GKwRIMAGhwXnACuyVgFvAiyK.jpeg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" data-large-width="750" data-large-height="1050" data-preview="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/3f12-audiofreehighqps/7E/47/GKwRIMAGhwXnACuyVgFvAiyK.jpeg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_small" data-preview-width="140" data-preview-height="196"> - 咚咚做的海报<img data-key="3" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/2bb4-audiofreehighqps/BA/E7/GMCoOSQGhwYAACOogQFvAjv9.jpeg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/2bb4-audiofreehighqps/BA/E7/GMCoOSQGhwYAACOogQFvAjv9.jpeg?op_type=0" data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/2bb4-audiofreehighqps/BA/E7/GMCoOSQGhwYAACOogQFvAjv9.jpeg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" data-large-width="750" data-large-height="1050" data-preview="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/2bb4-audiofreehighqps/BA/E7/GMCoOSQGhwYAACOogQFvAjv9.jpeg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_small" data-preview-width="140" data-preview-height="196"> - 咚咚用Photoshop模拟蓝晒<img data-key="4" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/f594-audiofreehighqps/C3/E2/GMCoOSQGhwYSAAYuzwFvAkV2.jpeg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/f594-audiofreehighqps/C3/E2/GMCoOSQGhwYSAAYuzwFvAkV2.jpeg?op_type=0" data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/f594-audiofreehighqps/C3/E2/GMCoOSQGhwYSAAYuzwFvAkV2.jpeg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" data-large-width="750" data-large-height="515.7" data-preview="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/f594-audiofreehighqps/C3/E2/GMCoOSQGhwYSAAYuzwFvAkV2.jpeg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_small" data-preview-width="140" data-preview-height="96.264"> - 咚咚做的「红丝绒蛋糕」钩针<img data-key="5" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/907a-audiofreehighqps/E7/25/GKwRIaIGhwYmAALnAQFvAlI9.jpeg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/907a-audiofreehighqps/E7/25/GKwRIaIGhwYmAALnAQFvAlI9.jpeg?op_type=0" data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/907a-audiofreehighqps/E7/25/GKwRIaIGhwYmAALnAQFvAlI9.jpeg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" data-large-width="750" data-large-height="1000" data-preview="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/907a-audiofreehighqps/E7/25/GKwRIaIGhwYmAALnAQFvAlI9.jpeg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_small" data-preview-width="140" data-preview-height="186.66666666666666"> - 王玉平说：<img data-key="6" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/663e-audiofreehighqps/21/C1/GMCoOR4GhwZpAAL_-QFvAoEh.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/663e-audiofreehighqps/21/C1/GMCoOR4GhwZpAAL_-QFvAoEh.jpg?op_type=0" data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/663e-audiofreehighqps/21/C1/GMCoOR4GhwZpAAL_-QFvAoEh.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" data-large-width="750" data-large-height="562.5" data-preview="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/663e-audiofreehighqps/21/C1/GMCoOR4GhwZpAAL_-QFvAoEh.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_small" data-preview-width="140" data-preview-height="105"> - 顾城说 “当人类在洞壁上画下第一个线条的时候，那时还没有文字，人们想获得内心的情感，获得一个自由，想画下在天上飞的感觉，鸟的感觉，树叶摇动的感觉，他们就画了，不是为了展览。可是后来，人们画了第二个、第三个，就想画得比第一个更好，这就迫使他遵循一个规律，线的规律，艺术的规律。这条线就缠在了人们手上，在挣扎中，在优美的搏斗中产生了很多伟大的艺术，人们生活在这些伟大艺术的光明和阴影之间，人就成为一个文化的产物。他是美丽的，有人道主义的东西，同时他也是最悲惨的，他远离了自然那种最芳香的气息。人们相信文字，相信文字能组成人的全部生活。其实我们有时读一片叶子，叶子更美丽，而我们的文字就是从叶子的脉络中来的。”   “要找出诗人和别人的不同之处的话，有一点，就是他有一种虔诚，他希望自己变得透明、通达，好让光能够清澈地通过；如果他是浑浊的话，光就通不过。” —— 《顾城哲思录》  �看咚咚的更多作品：<a target="_blank" style="color:#4990E2;text-decoration:none;">https://lobodluo.com/</a>MusicIlluminated  - Arto lindsaySun beats down - Yoshinori sunaharaFit song - CorneliusTone twilight zone- Cornelius***「拨瞪拨瞪」是上海话中眨眨眼的意思。眼睛眨一眨，又机灵又生动，提供一种观看的方式。拨瞪拨瞪相信，表述经验的表达越多越好。努力让「录制」本身成为一件比「上线」更为重要的事件。小宇宙、喜马拉雅、苹果播客、网易云音乐上都能收听。微博私信@孩儿象，加入听众群。