Leaving Eden Podcast

Shiny Happy People star Chad Harris joins us on this episode to discuss the latest developments in the Joe/Kendra Duggar cases. We discuss the potentially fake documents published by Katie Joy of the YouTube Channel "Without a Crystal Ball," the Joe/Kendra Duggar phone call, statements made by Jinger/Jeremy, and Jason/Maddie. In the third segment we answer listener questions about the arrests, about the Duggars, and about the IBLP in general.These are the two appeals to loss of parental rights cases we mentioned in the episode.https://law.justia.com/cases/arkansas/court-of-appeals/2025/cv-24-747.htmlhttps://law.justia.com/cases/arkansas/court-of-appeals/2025/cv-25-38.html 00:00 - Intro01:44 - Subscribe to our Patreon!02:20 - NO VICTIM SPECULATION02:45 - Katie Joy and the fake(?) court documents04:50 - What is a trusted source?08:04 - Josh got visitation with his kids11:02 - Thank you to our patrons!12:48 - Statement from Jinger and Jeremy15:40 - Statement from Jason and Maddie19:50 - IBLP fails young men22:00 - Phone call between Joe and Kendra24:58 - Kendra is in a difficult spot29:25 - Every home is a cult and every father is a cult leader30:23 - Why do we talk about this? The stakes are high!34:53 - Listener Questions! 35:17 - 6th amendment rights37:35 - Why did Jim Bob want to be on TV?40:47 - Child Endangerment Clarification45:08 - What if the Duggars were allowed to date?47:29 - Gothardism and Jim Bob's trauma53:54 - Why are all the Duggar daughters social media influencers?55:35 - Did Jim Bob and Michelle reconsider their choices?55:58 - Why do the women stay?57:50 - How to bring down the IBLPSubscribe to Leaving Eden Podcast on YouTube!https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJ4q94gAnsoW2jME4SvVrrQJoin our Patreon for extended, uncensored, and ad-free versions of most of our episodes, as well as other patron perks and bonus content!https://www.patreon.com/LeavingEdenPodcastJoin our Facebook group to join in the discussion with other fans!https://www.facebook.com/groups/edenexodusJoin our subreddit! Reddit.com/r/EdenExodusBluesky:@[email protected]@gavihacohen.bsky.socialInstagram:https://www.instagram.com/leavingedenpodcast/https://www.instagram.com/sadiecarpentermusic/https://www.instagram.com/gavrielhacohen/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this mini episode, I would like to recommend The Jordan Harbinger Show. Jordan has some amazing guests on his show, and he has a gift for making complex ideas accessible. I hope you enjoy it as much as I have.

In this episode, we discuss the continuing fallout from Joseph Duggar's arrest for child molestation, including Kendra Duggar's Child Endangerment/False Imprisonment charges, our breakdown of these charges, family statements made by/on behalf of Duggar family members, and our speculation on whether or not this case will go to trial.In the extended patreon edition, we discuss in greater detail our impressions of Amy Duggar after our (limited) interactions with her when she was a guest on our show while promoting her book.CW for discussion of CSA and CSAMAT NO POINT will we be speculating on the identity of the victim.02:00 - Kendra Duggar Arrested! 02:52 - Please subscribe and join our Patreon! 04:28 - Tonitown police file charges 06:45 - What "Unrelated" means 07:40 - WE ARE NOT LAWYERS 07:55 - Endangering the Welfare of a Minor 10:05 - New Information about Joe's Confession 11:40 - Our Original Theory 12:22 - Locks on the doors? 13:40 - Unsecured Firearms 14:40 - False Imprisonment 14:50 - Jason does not use power tools safely 16:30 - IBLP and Cult of Personality 16:50 - Magical Thinking 17:35 - How serious are Kendra's charges?24:44 - Thank you to our Patrons!26:19 - Jill and Derick Dillard's statement29:48 - Jessa and Ben Seewald's Statement30:22 - Amy Duggar King's Statement31:41 - Amy's book plug35:40 - Access and Accountability37:59 - People who deconstruct and stay Christian40:40 - Josh Duggar's Statement 46:03 - Joseph Duggar's Phone Call 47:20 - Jim Bob is running everything 48:44 - Will there be a trial? 49:04 - Can you imagine being Michelle Duggar? 51:17 - No statement from Jim Bob and Michelle 52:27 - We hope the victim's name never comes out 54:55 - Megyn Kelly is not a real journalist 55:57 - We hope the stories of survivors continue to be taken seriously 57:29 - Should Christians pay taxes? 55:29 - Should Christians pay taxes?Subscribe to Leaving Eden Podcast on YouTube!https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJ4q94gAnsoW2jME4SvVrrQJoin our Patreon for extended, uncensored, and ad-free versions of most of our episodes, as well as other patron perks and bonus content!https://www.patreon.com/LeavingEdenPodcastJoin our Facebook group to join in the discussion with other fans!https://www.facebook.com/groups/edenexodusJoin our subreddit! Reddit.com/r/EdenExodusBluesky:@[email protected]@gavihacohen.bsky.socialInstagram:https://www.instagram.com/leavingedenpodcast/https://www.instagram.com/sadiecarpentermusic/https://www.instagram.com/gavrielhacohen/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

n this special episode, we discuss the charges filed against former 19 Kids and Counting/Counting On star Joseph Duggar. Duggar is accused of committing Lewd and Lascivious Behavior, involving unlawful sexual activity with a minor. He has been taken into custody. The alleged molestation occurred some time in 2020. In this episode we discuss everything that we currently know, everything we don't know, the circumstances of the abuse, and then we answer listener questions.This episode contains discussions of child sexual abuse as well as discussion of Joseph's brother Josh's 2021 trial and conviction for possession of CSAM. This episode is not appropriate for children.Nowhere in this episode do we speculate about the identity of the victim, and we will not allow comments that do.Facebook post from Bay County Sheriff's Officehttps://www.facebook.com/share/p/1EoDDDy9qY/Reddit post with pictures of Joe and Kendra at Panama City Beach dated to October 11https://www.reddit.com/r/DuggarsSnark/comments/1rxk6ty/my_parents_2020_beach_vacation/Oxford University article about genetic predisposition to being an abuserhttps://www.psych.ox.ac.uk/news/sex-offending-genes-more-important-than-family-environment02:00 - Joe Duggar has been arrested 02:54 - Welcome to our show 03:10 - CW for CSA and CSAM discussion 04:20 - Consider joining our Patreon! 05:00 - BCSO Facebook Post 06:50 - Poor Kendra 07:53 - What is Joe charged with? 08:36 - What is a Life Felony? 09:46 - Joe's Apology 11:35 - Purity Pledge 12:34 - Will there be a trial? 17:48 - Thank you to our Patrons! 19:17 - What is the timeline? 20:04 - Raid on the Duggar car lot 20:45 - Counting the Cost by Jill Duggar Dillard 22:26 - Holy Disruptor by Amy Duggar King 24:20 - Jim Bob lied to the family 24:55 - Reddit Pictures on the beach 25:30 - Who was in Panama City Beach? 27:40 - Apologies to the victim's father? 28:15 - Homeland Security and US Marshals 31:27 - Kendra was pregnant 31:50 - Why did Joe Apologize? 32:50 - You are your father's property 34:20 - Did Kendra know? 35:12 - Will Kendra stay or go? 35:30 - Sadie's angry rant 37:43 - Question 1: Have we seen signs from Joe? Joe/Kendra age gap 38:54 - Sadie attended the wedding of a child bride 41:15 - Question 2: How does this keep happening in this family? 42:46 - Women are property, like livestock 44:50 - Limiting access and adding accountability prevents abuse 47:07 - Question 3: We know nothing about the victim or their family 48:11 - Question 4: Did this follow the same pattern as Josh's cover-up? 49:40 - Questions 5 and 6, Social media and Can Kendra Leave because Joe admitted his crime? 52:01 - Question 7: Purity Culture 52:42 - Question 8: Will this change fundie culture? 54:14 - Question 9: Genetics and Grandpa Duggar 55:35 - If there is a trial we will cover it!Subscribe to Leaving Eden Podcast on YouTube!https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJ4q94gAnsoW2jME4SvVrrQJoin our Patreon for extended, uncensored, and ad-free versions of most of our episodes, as well as other patron perks and bonus content!https://www.patreon.com/LeavingEdenPodcastJoin our Facebook group to join in the discussion with other fans!https://www.facebook.com/groups/edenexodusJoin our subreddit! Reddit.com/r/EdenExodusBluesky:@[email protected]@gavihacohen.bsky.socialInstagram:https://www.instagram.com/leavingedenpodcast/https://www.instagram.com/sadiecarpentermusic/https://www.instagram.com/gavrielhacohen/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In today's episode, Sadie tells us all about Hyles-Anderson College, the fundamentalist cult bible college that she enrolled in as an 18-year-old. We discuss the reason why a cult would want to have a college, the history of the school, what gets taught in classes at Hyles-Anderson, the school rules, and the predatory financial programs the school uses to keep students from dropping out or leaving.02:00 - What do they teach you at cult college?02:30 - Marriage and Motherhood degree02:52 - Join the Patreon for all of the bonus content!03:36 - Why do cults need a college?04:30 - Hyles-Anderson College04:53 - Listen to Sadie's interview on Preacher Boys Podcast with Eric Skwarczynski05:05 - Jack Hyles05:25 - Russell Anderson05:55 - Other Christian Colleges were TOO SOFT06:05 - Fundamentalism youth pipeline06:50 - Boot Camp for Christian workers08:15 - Business model of Hyles-Anderson College10:00 - The IFB connection to the unjustified killing of Breonna Taylor10:15 - HAC is unaccredited15:47 - Thank you to all of our patrons!17:12 - What is in the curriculum?17:40 - YOUR BODY IS NOT YOUR OWN BY JOBETH HOOKER21:40 - Scum Manifesto22:20 - Christian Womanhood23:12 - Preparation for Marriage Class23:40 - David and Jonathan24:20 - Give your husband a standing ovation when he comes home or he will cheat on you with his secretary26:54 - Other classes at cult college27:30 - HAC is basically Sea Org/Scientology28:40 - Bible Class30:13 - Steven Anderson and the NIFB32:45 - The rules of cult college34:35 - Dress Code38:40 - Demerit system38:55 - Tiered justice system and nepotism39:40 - Sadie almost got expelled!41:40 - How are the rules enforced?42:10 - The Jericho Plan42:55 - This scheme is probably illegal43:50 - The Bait and SwitchSubscribe to Leaving Eden Podcast on YouTube!https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJ4q94gAnsoW2jME4SvVrrQJoin our Patreon for extended, uncensored, and ad-free versions of most of our episodes, as well as other patron perks and bonus content!https://www.patreon.com/LeavingEdenPodcastJoin our Facebook group to join in the discussion with other fans!https://www.facebook.com/groups/edenexodusJoin our subreddit! Reddit.com/r/EdenExodusBluesky:@[email protected]@gavihacohen.bsky.socialInstagram:https://www.instagram.com/leavingedenpodcast/https://www.instagram.com/sadiecarpentermusic/https://www.instagram.com/gavrielhacohen/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.