Welcome to Creating Structure Podcast # 49 with Lisa Lococo Smith of the Kawneer Collaborative. Lisa has an interesting path to the curtain wall industry, but always her work has centered around the people part of business;  marketing, hospitality, sales, business development.  Always positive, Lisa "chooses joy," and "choose happiness."  You'll feel it in this discussion. We talk about Lisa's background, working with different types of people, sales, rejection, positivity, curtain wall, unitized curtain wall, Kawneer, trends, and more.  We talk about the association and commonality with people, whether tending bar at The West End Tavern, or interacting with clients on a glazing project. We talk about her non-traditional path, which is not uncommon to this industry. This was recorded in September 2023, but the information and context is relevant to any time. We cover a lot of ground here and I'll just let the podcast speak for itself.Enjoy! The Guest:  Lisa Lococo SmithLinked In:https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisalococosmith/ Kawneer:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/kawneer-company/Website:https://www.kawneer.us/ Host:John L. Wheaton, PE, CEO, WSE Inc; Creating Structure Podcast Host, ConnectorBlog: https://johnlwheaton.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-wheaton-pe-leed-ap-0694886Twitter: https://twitter.com/JohnLWheaton1Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/johnlwheaton1/Wheaton Sprague and Affiliates:Company: https://www.wheatonsprague.comTwitter: https://twitter.com/wheatonsprague Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/wheatonsprague/Audio Production, Mixing, Engineering:BVS ProductionsLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/budget-video-solutions/Website: https://www.bvsfilmproductions.com/