This week, we drop the Hard Fork Music Megamix. Plus, we talk to two of the New York Time's composers who make the music for our show. It’s all the tracks you know and love, all in one place. Today’s Guests:<ul><li>Dan Powell, creative technical manager at The New York Times</li><li>Elisheba Ittoop, sound designer and composer at The New York Times</li></ul>Additional Reading: <ul><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGUwZ1-sqlY">The Hard Fork Megamix Youtube Playlist</a></li></ul>We want to hear from you. Email us at <a href="mailto:hardfork@nytimes.com">hardfork@nytimes.com</a>. Find “Hard Fork” on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/hardfork">YouTube</a> and <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@hardfork">TikTok</a>.

<description>&lt;p&gt;This week, we drop the Hard Fork Music Megamix. Plus, we talk to two of the New York Time's composers who make the music for our show. It’s all the tracks you know and love, all in one place. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Today’s Guests:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Dan Powell, creative technical manager at The New York Times&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Elisheba Ittoop, sound designer and composer at The New York Times&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Additional Reading: &lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGUwZ1-sqlY"&gt;The Hard Fork Megamix Youtube Playlist&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;We want to hear from you. Email us at &lt;a href="mailto:hardfork@nytimes.com"&gt;hardfork@nytimes.com&lt;/a&gt;. Find “Hard Fork” on &lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/hardfork"&gt;YouTube&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@hardfork"&gt;TikTok&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
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"I feel like we've been at the club. I need some water and some electrolytes."


The Music Episode

This week, the companies building artificial intelligence are facing a limit to what training data is publicly available on the internet. Will that stop them from building God? Then, a new bipartisan national privacy law proposal just dropped. We ask what’s in it. And finally, ByteDance is building new apps instead of fighting Congress’s TikTok ban.Today’s Guests:Trevor Hughes, president and C.E.O. of the International Association of Privacy ProfessionalsAdditional Reading:<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/06/technology/tech-giants-harvest-data-artificial-intelligence.html" target="_blank">How Tech Giants Cut Corners to Harvest Data for A.I.</a><a href="https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/ai-training-data-synthetic-openai-anthropic-9230f8d8" target="_blank">For Data-Guzzling A.I. Companies, the Internet Is Too Small</a><a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2024/04/07/congress-privacy-deal-cantwell-rodgers/" target="_blank">Lawmakers unveil sprawling plan to expand online privacy protections</a><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/04/business/media/tiktok-marketing-blitz-ban.html" target="_blank">TikTok Turns to Nuns, Veterans and Ranchers in Marketing Blitz</a>We want to hear from you. Email us at <a href="mailto:hardfork@nytimes.com">hardfork@nytimes.com.</a> Find “Hard Fork” on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/hardfork">YouTube </a>and <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@hardfork">TikTok.</a>

<description>&lt;p&gt;This week, the companies building artificial intelligence are facing a limit to what training data is publicly available on the internet. Will that stop them from building God? Then, a new bipartisan national privacy law proposal just dropped. We ask what’s in it. And finally, ByteDance is building new apps instead of fighting Congress’s TikTok ban.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Today’s Guests:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Trevor Hughes, president and C.E.O. of the International Association of Privacy Professionals&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Additional Reading:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/06/technology/tech-giants-harvest-data-artificial-intelligence.html" target="_blank"&gt;How Tech Giants Cut Corners to Harvest Data for A.I.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/ai-training-data-synthetic-openai-anthropic-9230f8d8" target="_blank"&gt;For Data-Guzzling A.I. Companies, the Internet Is Too Small&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2024/04/07/congress-privacy-deal-cantwell-rodgers/" target="_blank"&gt;Lawmakers unveil sprawling plan to expand online privacy protections&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/04/business/media/tiktok-marketing-blitz-ban.html" target="_blank"&gt;TikTok Turns to Nuns, Veterans and Ranchers in Marketing Blitz&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;We want to hear from you. Email us at &lt;a href="mailto:hardfork@nytimes.com"&gt;hardfork@nytimes.com.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Find “Hard Fork” on &lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/hardfork"&gt;YouTube &lt;/a&gt;and &lt;a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@hardfork"&gt;TikTok.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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I’d rather not tell you what’s in this episode. It’s private.

A.I.’s Data Wall + a Surprise Privacy Bill + What Happened to the TikTok Ban?

This week we look at how AI is affecting jobs. As companies start announcing AI-related job cuts and experimenting with customer service bots, economists are placing bets on whether AI will lead to major gains for companies and workers. Some are even predicting it will help rebuild the middle class.  Then, multidisciplinary artist and filmmaker Paul Trillo joins to talk to us about his experience as part of a select group of testers granted early access to Sora, Open AI’s video generation tool. And finally, Kevin explains what happened when a Microsoft developer stumbled on a huge cyber security breach.Today’s Guests: <ul><li><a href="https://paultrillo.com/">Paul Trillo</a>, multidisciplinary artist, writer and director </li></ul> Additional Reading: <ul><li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/01/business/ai-tech-economy.html">How One Tech Skeptic Decided A.I. Might Benefit the Middle Class</a></li><li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/01/business/economy/artificial-intelligence-productivity.html">Will A.I. Boost Productivity? Companies Sure Hope So.</a></li><li><a href="https://vimeo.com/927400626">Paul Trillo’s Sora Video, The Golden Record</a></li><li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/03/technology/prevent-cyberattack-linux.html">Did One Guy Just Stop a Huge Cyberattack?</a></li></ul>We want to hear from you. Email us at <a href="mailto:hardfork@nytimes.com">hardfork@nytimes.com.</a> Find “Hard Fork” on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/hardfork">YouTube </a>and <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@hardfork">TikTok.</a>

<description>&lt;p&gt;This week we look at how AI is affecting jobs. As companies start announcing AI-related job cuts and experimenting with customer service bots, economists are placing bets on whether AI will lead to major gains for companies and workers. Some are even predicting it will help rebuild the middle class.  Then, multidisciplinary artist and filmmaker Paul Trillo joins to talk to us about his experience as part of a select group of testers granted early access to Sora, Open AI’s video generation tool. And finally, Kevin explains what happened when a Microsoft developer stumbled on a huge cyber security breach.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Today’s Guests: &lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://paultrillo.com/"&gt;Paul Trillo&lt;/a&gt;, multidisciplinary artist, writer and director &lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Additional Reading: &lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/01/business/ai-tech-economy.html"&gt;How One Tech Skeptic Decided A.I. Might Benefit the Middle Class&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/01/business/economy/artificial-intelligence-productivity.html"&gt;Will A.I. Boost Productivity? Companies Sure Hope So.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://vimeo.com/927400626"&gt;Paul Trillo’s Sora Video, The Golden Record&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/03/technology/prevent-cyberattack-linux.html"&gt;Did One Guy Just Stop a Huge Cyberattack?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;We want to hear from you. Email us at &lt;a href="mailto:hardfork@nytimes.com"&gt;hardfork@nytimes.com.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Find “Hard Fork” on &lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/hardfork"&gt;YouTube &lt;/a&gt;and &lt;a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@hardfork"&gt;TikTok.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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 "I've always said if you have a ChatGPT subscription and a hose, you can get very far in this life.”

Is AI Already Taking Jobs? + A Filmmaker Tries Sora + The XZ Backdoor Caper

Warning: The second segment of this episode includes mentions of suicide. If you are in crisis please call the suicide and crisis lifeline at 988 or you can contact the Crisis Text Line by texting TALK to 741741.This week, we look at a mess of corporate drama in artificial intelligence. Stability AI has announced that its founder and C.E.O., Emad Mostaque, is leaving the company. Meanwhile, Microsoft hired away two of the co-founders and much of the staff of Inflection, without actually acquiring the company itself. Both moves surprised tech insiders. Then, we talked with listeners who had something to say about our interview with Jonathan Haidt on smartphones, social media and young people. And finally, we examine the true motives behind “Shrimp Jesus” and other hugely popular images on social media that were generated with artificial intelligence.Today’s guests:<ul><li>Jordan Lucero, a high school student</li><li>Maya Rayle, a graduate student</li><li>Jack Campbell, a college student</li><li>Brendan Kelley, a high school digital coach</li></ul>Additional Reading: <ul><li><a href="https://www.platformer.news/indie-ai-collapse-stability-ai-mostaque-inflection-suleyman/">The indie AI companies are falling apart</a></li><li><a href="https://cyber.fsi.stanford.edu/io/news/ai-spam-accounts-build-followers">How Spammers, Scammers and Creators Leverage AI-Generated Images on Facebook for Audience Growth</a></li></ul>We want to hear from you. Email us at <a href="mailto:hardfork@nytimes.com">hardfork@nytimes.com</a>.  Find “Hard Fork” on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/hardfork">YouTube</a> and <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@hardfork">TikTok</a>.

<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;Warning: The second segment of this episode includes mentions of suicide. If you are in crisis please call the suicide and crisis lifeline at 988 or you can contact the Crisis Text Line by texting TALK to 741741.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;This week, we look at a mess of corporate drama in artificial intelligence. Stability AI has announced that its founder and C.E.O., Emad Mostaque, is leaving the company. Meanwhile, Microsoft hired away two of the co-founders and much of the staff of Inflection, without actually acquiring the company itself. Both moves surprised tech insiders. Then, we talked with listeners who had something to say about our interview with Jonathan Haidt on smartphones, social media and young people. And finally, we examine the true motives behind “Shrimp Jesus” and other hugely popular images on social media that were generated with artificial intelligence.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Today’s guests:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Jordan Lucero, a high school student&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Maya Rayle, a graduate student&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Jack Campbell, a college student&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Brendan Kelley, a high school digital coach&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Additional Reading: &lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.platformer.news/indie-ai-collapse-stability-ai-mostaque-inflection-suleyman/"&gt;The indie AI companies are falling apart&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://cyber.fsi.stanford.edu/io/news/ai-spam-accounts-build-followers"&gt;How Spammers, Scammers and Creators Leverage AI-Generated Images on Facebook for Audience Growth&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;We want to hear from you. Email us at &lt;a href="mailto:hardfork@nytimes.com"&gt;hardfork@nytimes.com&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;br /&gt;Find “Hard Fork” on &lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/hardfork"&gt;YouTube&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@hardfork"&gt;TikTok&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
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“Being a CEO sucks. Elon was right. It is like looking into the abyss and chewing glass.”


A.I.’s Messy Moment + Listeners Respond to Jonathan Haidt + Shrimp Jesus

This week, the U.S. Department of Justice sued Apple, saying the company holds a monopoly over the smartphone market. We break down the lawsuit and ask whether it will be a major turning point in Apple’s dominance. Then, Jonathan Haidt, a social psychologist, argues that smartphones and social media are the cause of widespread increases in mental health issues among young people. He tells us his four potential solutions to the problem. And finally, Reddit’s market capitalization hit $9.2 billion when it debuted on the New York Stock Exchange this week, but the company still isn’t making money. We talk about the challenges Reddit faces as it goes public, and how the site may change as a result.Today’s guest:<ul><li>Jonathan Haidt, author of “<a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/729231/the-anxious-generation-by-jonathan-haidt/">The Anxious Generation</a>”</li></ul>Additional Reading:<ul><li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/21/technology/apple-doj-lawsuit-antitrust.html">U.S. Sues Apple, Accusing It of Maintaining an iPhone Monopoly</a></li><li><a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2024/03/teen-childhood-smartphone-use-mental-health-effects/677722/">End the Phone-Based Childhood Now</a></li><li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/21/technology/reddit-ipo-public-content-moderation.html">Reddit’s I.P.O. Is a Content Moderation Success Story</a></li></ul>We want to hear from you. Email us at <a href="mailto:hardfork@nytimes.com">hardfork@nytimes.com</a>. Find “Hard Fork” on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/hardfork">YouTube</a> and <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@hardfork">TikTok</a>.

<description>&lt;p&gt;This week, the U.S. Department of Justice sued Apple, saying the company holds a monopoly over the smartphone market. We break down the lawsuit and ask whether it will be a major turning point in Apple’s dominance. Then, Jonathan Haidt, a social psychologist, argues that smartphones and social media are the cause of widespread increases in mental health issues among young people. He tells us his four potential solutions to the problem. And finally, Reddit’s market capitalization hit $9.2 billion when it debuted on the New York Stock Exchange this week, but the company still isn’t making money. We talk about the challenges Reddit faces as it goes public, and how the site may change as a result.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Today’s guest:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Jonathan Haidt, author of “&lt;a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/729231/the-anxious-generation-by-jonathan-haidt/"&gt;The Anxious Generation&lt;/a&gt;”&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Additional Reading:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/21/technology/apple-doj-lawsuit-antitrust.html"&gt;U.S. Sues Apple, Accusing It of Maintaining an iPhone Monopoly&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2024/03/teen-childhood-smartphone-use-mental-health-effects/677722/"&gt;End the Phone-Based Childhood Now&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/21/technology/reddit-ipo-public-content-moderation.html"&gt;Reddit’s I.P.O. Is a Content Moderation Success Story&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;We want to hear from you. Email us at &lt;a href="mailto:hardfork@nytimes.com"&gt;hardfork@nytimes.com&lt;/a&gt;. Find “Hard Fork” on &lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/hardfork"&gt;YouTube&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@hardfork"&gt;TikTok&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
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“We’ll see you in court.”

Justice Dept. Sues Apple + Smartphones and Children with Jonathan Haidt + Reddit’s IPO

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