Leadership in Black and White
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Leadership in Black and White is a weekly podcast hosted by John Siebeling and Wayne Francis. John and Wayne talk to leaders about how to lead in the gray areas of life and develop you as a Christian leader.
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JAN 12, 2026
Iterate Or Deteriorate
Every leader is faced with this choice: iterate or deteriorate. Pastors John and Wayne discuss the importance of getting better and the difference between innovation and iteration. Follow us on Instagram for more great leadership content:...
20 MIN
DEC 22, 2025
End Of Year Mailbag
In this mailbag episode, John and Wayne answer questions from listeners about topics including: keeping people engaged in the vision, what to make public and what to keep private, how to know when you're pushing your team too hard,...
25 MIN
DEC 15, 2025
Building Teams That Build Each Other
Every leader is building teams - but what happens when you build teams that actually build and strengthen the teams around them? Pastors John and Wayne discuss the power and impact of a team structure that actually positions your organization...
18 MIN
DEC 8, 2025
An Underrated Leadership Discipline
The end of the year is rapidly approaching - what are you going to do to make 2026 better than 2025? Pastors John and Wayne discuss an underrated leadership discipline that could be the difference between success and failure next year....
21 MIN
DEC 1, 2025
The Hidden Threat of Recency Bias
Recency bias is a cognitive bias that causes people to give more weight to recent information or experiences, even if older information is more relevant or reliable. Pastors John and Wayne discuss the impact this can have on your leadership...
14 MIN
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