John is joined by radio host and burgeoning media mogul Charlamagne tha God—whose nationally syndicated morning show, The Breakfast Club, has emerged as a key conduit to Black America for political figures from Kamala Harris to Lara Trump—to dig into the interplay of politics, media, and culture that led to a photo finish in the 2024 election. Charlemagne discusses his staunch support for Harris and his reaction to seeing Donald Trump’s team weaponize his words against her in an anti-Harris (and anti-trans) TV ad; his on-air clash with Anderson Cooper over the failure of CNN and others in the press to hold Trump accountable for his authoritarianism; his disdain for Joe Biden and respect for younger Democrats such as Gretchen Whitmer, Josh Shapiro, and Wes Moore; and what he makes of Tucker Carlson’s claim to have been mauled in his bed by a demon (yes, an actual demon).

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