<p>Matt Welch, co-host of <a target="_blank" href="https://substack.com/profile/85762546-the-fifth-column">The Fifth Column</a> podcast and editor at large for <em>Reason Magazine</em>, joins Adaam to discuss the aftermath of Charlie Kirk’s assassination. It’s grim. How grim? Very. Get off social media. Turn off your phone. Touch grass. See ya’ll in the gulag.</p><p>Also:</p><p>-<a target="_blank" href="https://uncertain.substack.com/p/matt-welch-biden-unity-media-inauguration?utm_source=publication-search">Matt’s previous visit to </a><a target="_blank" href="https://uncertain.substack.com/p/matt-welch-biden-unity-media-inauguration?utm_source=publication-search"><em>Uncertain Things</em></a></p><p>-<a target="_blank" href="https://uncertain.substack.com/p/the-jacobin-seduction">Adaam on political violence</a></p><p>-<a target="_blank" href="https://uncertain.substack.com/p/words-mob-jonah-goldberg">Adaam and Jonah Goldberg on political violence</a></p><p>-<a target="_blank" href="https://uncertain.substack.com/p/yuval-levin-jacobins-freedom">Yuval Levin on violence</a></p><p><em>Uncertain Things is hosted and produced by Adaam James Levin-Areddy and Vanessa M. Quirk. For more doomsday thoughts, subscribe to: http://uncertain.substack.com.</em></p><p></p> <br/><br/>Get full access to Uncertain Things at <a href="https://uncertain.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&#38;utm_campaign=CTA_4">uncertain.substack.com/subscribe</a>