OEGlobal Voices
OEGlobal Voices

OEGlobal Voices

Open Education Global

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Open Education Global’s podcast featuring the voice of open education practitioners from around the world.

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OEG Voices 077: Patrina Law on OE Award for Leadership
MAR 19, 2025
OEG Voices 077: Patrina Law on OE Award for Leadership

In our long overdue newest episode, we spoke to Patrina Law about her recognition with a 2023 Individual Open Education Award for Excellence in Leadership. We recorded this back in late September 2024 just prior to the announcement of the 2024 OEAwards. We are confident when you listen to Patrina you will find the wait was worth it!

Patrina shares her path from starting in the field of working in a charity organization, then joining the Open University where she ultimately came to lead OpenLearn, and recently circling back to charity in your current role with the Royal Society for the Arts. You will hear her passion for making educational opportunities available as widely as possible to society and her interests in digital badges, research, and aligning programs to documented impact.

In This Episode

FYI: For the sake of experimentation and the spirit of transparency, this set of show notes alone was generated by the AI “Underlord” in the Descript editor we use to produce OEGlobal Voices.

Join Alan Levine as he interviews Patrina Law, a renowned leader in Open Education Resources (OER), in this latest episode of OE Global Voices. Patrina, a 2023 award winner for leadership in OER, shares insights from her extensive career at the Open University, including her impactful work with OpenLearn.

Explore how Patrina’s passion for open education and inclusion has driven innovative projects and research, such as the introduction of digital badges and alternative learning formats. Learn how these initiatives have empowered diverse learners around the world and the significance of data-driven strategies in shaping educational content.

In this captivating conversation, Patrina also delves into her transition to the Royal Society for the Arts (RSA) and her current role in advancing the Digital Badging Commission. Discover the RSA’s mission and the potential of digital badges in recognizing and validating non-formal learning in the workforce.

Don’t miss this episode filled with inspiration, innovation, and a deep commitment to making education accessible to all. Tune in for a journey through Patrina’s remarkable contributions and her vision for the future of open education.

  • Intro music and highlight quote
  • Welcome to OE Global Voices
  • Conversation with Patrina Law
  • Patrina’s Background and Education
  • Journey to Open Education
  • OpenLearn and Its Impact
  • Challenges and Achievements
  • Digital Badges and Inclusivity

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I think the first side of it was having the freedom to develop the team that develop all the content. And I was very lucky that I had a really fabulous team when I was there of really dedicated and enthusiastic folk who were very good at making open educational resources.

And I think probably I would put that as down as one of the great successes because they had the skill set to work with academics who in some senses were often dealing with very challenging subject material or very deep subject material that was aimed at undergraduates Level Two, Level Three undergraduates, and they had to rework that material and make it accessible to all, and so I and they made wonderful animations, they made great videos, they made great audio they turned that material into real living, breathing, fantastic, engaging learning content, so I think one of the successes for me, although I can’t say that it was all my doing, but as a team, was the team.

Patrina Law on her team at OpenLearn

Because so much of OER is really aimed at just everybody. And it’s, a whole point of it is to be totally open, but to have sat forward and undertaken some learning yourself, I think you should be rewarded for that at some level. And digital badges seem to be that happy marriage. So it’s great to be working in open badging again for the RSA, for all the right social good reasons as well.

Patrina Law on recognition of Open Badges


Our open licensed music for this episode is a track called Let the Flames Lead the Way  by Jon Shuemaker  licensed under a Creative Commons  Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International License. Like most of our podcast music, it was found at the Free Music Archive (see our full FMA playlist).

Finally, this was another episode we are recording on the web in Squadcast, part of the Descript platform for AI enabled transcribing and editing audio in text– this has greatly enhanced our ability to produce our showsWe have been exploring some of the other AI features in Descriptbut our posts remain human authored except where indicated otherwise.

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OEG Voices 076: Purvi Shah on Storyweaver
DEC 19, 2024
OEG Voices 076: Purvi Shah on Storyweaver

In this episode we take you to Bangalore, India to hear about a remarkable publisher, Pratham Books and its Open Education for Excellence Award winning platform Storyweaver, core to Pratham’s mission of a book in the hands of every child in the country, published in that child’s mother tongue.

We welcomed in the studio Purvi Shah, Senior Director of StoryWeaver & Strategy to tell use the story of Storyweaver, which was recognized with a 2023 Open Education Award for Excellence in the Open Repository category. At this time, StoryWeaver offers now over 64,000 stories in more than 370 languages spoken around the world, and offers a place for anyone to contribute images, new translations, and also age and subject specific teaching resources. All of this came about from a bold commitment in 2004 from Pratham Books to embrace open licensing for their published storybooks.

StoryWeaver web site with menu items Read, Translate, Create, Resources, and Discover. One of the rotating banner displays a graphic style image of a teacher reading a book to her students with text: "Storyweeaver in School, For Educators- We've worked with teachers so closely over the years that we've built these resources to be of real help. You'll find this section packed with stories, themes, activities, and more - all carefully ordered by grade and reading level.
From language acquisition and reading comprehension, to textbook concepts and ideas, we'll help you nurture the joy of reading among all your students."
https://storyweaver.org.in/

Enjoy the enthusiasm in Purvi’a voice as she shares the missions and global reach of StoryWeaver, as well as sharing examples of her favorite titles. And we appreciate the serendipty, than when Purvi offered to read a selection of a favorite story, from among the 60,000 titles in StoryWeaver, the one she chose was What Will Today Bring? authored by someone we know well here at OEGlobal, University of Leeds open educator Chrissi Nerantzi.

We also want to thank Sreemoyee Mukherjee from Pratham Books who joined us in the studio and was instrumental in coordinating this conversation.

In This Episode

FYI: For the sake of experimentation and the spirit of transparency, this set of show notes alone was generated by the AI “Underlord” in the Descript editor we use to produce OEGlobal Voices.

In this episode of OEGlobal Voices, host Alan Levine engages in an inspiring conversation with Purvi Shah, a key member of the StoryWeaver initiative by Pratham Books in India. StoryWeaver, a community-driven digital platform, earned the 2023 Open Education Award for Excellence in the Open Curation Repository category.

Key Highlights:

  1. Embracing Openness: Purvi discusses the organization’s decision to adopt open licensing to reach their mission of putting a book in every child’s hand. This shift from a traditional publishing model to an open platform allowed the community to create and translate stories, leading to the birth of StoryWeaver.
  2. The Genesis of StoryWeaver: The platform was launched on International Literacy Day in 2015 with 800 stories in 24 languages. Today, it boasts an impressive collection of 60,000 stories in 370 languages, serving as a vast repository of multilingual and multicultural stories.
  3. Innovative Features: StoryWeaver includes unique features such as “read-alongs,” which combine audio, video, and same-language subtitling to aid language learning and literacy. The platform also offers structured resources for teachers, such as thematic book lists and STEM programs.
  4. Translations and Impact: Purvi shares stories about the extensive translations available on the platform. “Rani’s First Day at School” has been translated into 138 languages, demonstrating the community’s active participation. She also narrates heartwarming anecdotes about how these stories have impacted children and teachers around the world.
  5. Community Contributions: The discussion highlights how users can contribute by translating stories or creating new ones using the platform’s vast library of images and easy-to-use creation tools. Purvi shares examples of innovative projects inspired by StoryWeaver, such as a literacy program developed in Mexico.
  6. Future Goals: Looking ahead, Purvi emphasizes the importance of expanding the depth of stories in each language and leveraging the community’s strengths to ensure that every child can access a book in their mother tongue.

Alan and Purvi’s conversation encapsulates the essence of open education and the incredible work being done by the StoryWeaver team to foster literacy and inclusivity. The episode concludes with a recommendation to explore StoryWeaver and an acknowledgment of the upcoming Open Education Awards.

Tune in to OEGlobal Voices to dive deeper into the world of StoryWeaver and the transformative power of open education.

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Additional Links and Quotes for Episode 76

How can we work with the communities to increase the depth of languages? So that could be a potential future milestone. We were just discussing this in office the other day that it’s so interesting that while the platform has 370 languages and that’s a milestone in itself, but the real milestone is that for that one child reading the first book in their mother tongue is really the milestone.

We hit that milestone almost every day because every day a child is discovering a book in their mother tongue for the first time. That milestone will never get old, I think. And some of the other sort of milestones [has] been just not being a platform where we allow for stories, but say, when we created this whole different platform, the white label StoryWeaver for Room to Read in Indonesia and that helped kickstart their own platform called Literacy Cloud.

That was a pretty important milestone because whatever we have learned, we could empower other organizations. to build off our investments, our learning, in countries that they work with.

Purvi Shah on StoryWeaver’s milestones

Our open licensed music for this episode is a track called Fairytale Story by Serge Quadrado  licensed under a Creative Commons  Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International License. Like most of our podcast music, it was found at the Free Music Archive (see our full FMA playlist).

The image of the reading octopus in this episode’s artwork is part the StoryWeaver web site, an illustration credited to Measa Sovonnarea.

Finally, this was another episode we are recording on the web in Squadcast, part of the Descript platform for AI enabled transcribing and editing audio in text– this has greatly enhanced our ability to produce our showsWe have been exploring some of the other AI features in Descriptbut our posts remain human authored except where indicated otherwise.

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OEG Voices 075: Madison Swain-Bowden and Zack Krida on Openverse
DEC 16, 2024
OEG Voices 075: Madison Swain-Bowden and Zack Krida on Openverse

In this episode we hear from two key members of the project team behind the open media search tool Openverse, winner of a 2023 Open Education Award for Excellence in the Open Infrastructure category. Recorded back in late July when we were between the announcements of the shortlist of finalists and the winners of the 2024 awards, we are overdue with sharing this conversation.

Openverse is an essential and recommended tool for open educations, a feature-packed search engine for finding and reusing openly licensed works, currently indexing over 800 million images and audio items from multiple institutional collections. As a successor to the original Creative Commons Search, Openverse is supported as a sponsorship of Automattic, the company that provides WordPress, and who adopted the project from Creative Commons in 2021. Ongoing development is enabled by the WordPress Foundation.

Explore Openverse https://openverse.org/

Representing this development team here is Zack Krida, Team Lead for the Openverse project and Madison Swain-Bowden, data engineer. We cover the the origins of Openverse, its relationship with the WordPress Foundation, technical insights into its functionalities, and its contributions to open education. We also spoke the implications of AI and machine learning, the user experience, the search features, and future goals for the platform.

We hope you enjoy this long overdue episode. If you have not done so already try Openverse for your media searches to experience the features and functionality, knowing the open licensed collections from which it sources draws can be credited using the one-click copy and paste for attribution.

In This Episode

FYI: For the sake of experimentation and the spirit of transparency, this set of show notes alone was generated by the AI “Underlord” in the Descript editor we use to produce OEGlobal Voices.

OEGlobal Voices Episode 75 with 2023 OE Award Infrastructure Winner, Openverse

AI Underlord, generate a summary of this show including section chapters.

In this episode of OE Global Voices, host Alan Levine sits down with representatives from Openverse, Madison Swain-Bowden and Zack Krida. Openverse, which won the 2023 Open Education Award for Infrastructure, is a vital tool under the WordPress Foundation, providing a search engine for openly licensed media. Madison and Zack delve into the formation and evolution of the project, originally started by Creative Commons as CC Search, and its transition under the stewardship of the WordPress Foundation and Automattic.

The discussion highlights the unique functionalities and recent improvements in Openverse, such as sensitive content filtering, machine learning for better search relevance, and the significance of attribution, making the tool indispensable for educators and creators alike. The guests share their roles and personal journeys in tech and open source, reflecting on how their work with Openverse contributes to the broader mission of open education.

The episode also tackles the ethical considerations and potential uses of AI in managing and improving the search engine. Madison and Zack’s dedication to keeping Openverse user-focused and human-centric shines through as they share delightful anecdotes of user feedback and the joys of seeing their work make a difference in educational and creative communities.

Tune in to discover more about Openverse’s mission, the role of the WordPress Foundation and Automattic in supporting open-source projects, and the innovative ways Openverse is making openly licensed content more accessible and useful for everyone.

  • Intro Music and Opening Quotes
  • OE Global Voices Podcast Introduction
  • Open Education Awards and Open Infrastructure Award
  • Meet the Openverse Team: Madison and Zack
  • What is Openverse?
  • The Origin Story of Openverse
  • Technical Insights: How Openverse Works
  • The Role of WordPress Foundation and Automattic
  • Team Roles and Backgrounds
  • Openverse and Artificial Intelligence
  • Recent Features and Improvements
  • User Stories and Feedback
  • Conclusion and Acknowledgements

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Additional Links and Quotes for Episode 75

This is this is goes to the core of Openverse. It’s one of the things that I really love about it, is the one click attribution that we have. I think that was mentioned in the awards text that we got from OEG last year as a big thing to point out.

Madison Swain-Bowden

One thing I wanted to flag that I think is somewhat underappreciated with Openverse we are fully translated into about 19 different languages. So that’s the entire user interface, all the text on the site itself, um, and then in various stages of partial translation in 40 additional languages. Those are all those are all human generated translations by community contributors in the broader WordPress community, which is really remarkable.

Zack Krida

Our open licensed music for this episode is a track called Infrastucture by Anitek licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial-Share Alike 3.0 License. Most of our podcast music is found at the Free Music Archive (see our full FMA playlist) but for this episode it seemed relevant locate the track using Openverse to search audio for the key phrase “infrastructure”.

This was another episode we are recording on the web in Squadcast. This is part of the Descript platform for AI enabled transcribing and editing audio in text– this has greatly enhanced our ability to produce our showsWe have been exploring some of the other AI features in Descriptbut our posts remain human authored except where indicated otherwise.

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OEG Voices 074: Tony Bates and A Personal History of Open Education
OCT 2, 2024
OEG Voices 074: Tony Bates and A Personal History of Open Education

Join us for a wide ranging conversation with Tony Bates covering his long and on ongoing span of being active in open and distance education. We start from his being part of the very first days of the Open University through his years based in Canada but working globally being integral to the development of online learning through the web. He has long been publishing open textbooks and sharing his perspectives on his own website. We go right up to present day where Tony is active in exploring the role of artificial intelligence.

We were inspired to have these conversation having seen where Tony has been publishing on his blog his “personal history” now up to it’s 26th installment:

I am writing an autobiography, mainly for my family, but it does cover some key moments in the development of open and online learning. I thought I would share these as there seems to be a growing interest in the history of educational technology.

Note that these posts are NOT meant to be deeply researched historical accounts, but how I saw and encountered developments in my personal life.

Tony Bates blog
In the OEGlobal Voices studio with Tony Bates (left) and Alan Levine (right)

Listen in for Tony’s insightful energy, critical perspective, and humor as well as his lived stories of experience through a long era of online and open education. Plus, you will find a surprising bit of extra history on how he might have influenced some other students he knew in primary school who went on to be famous.

In This Episode

FYI: For the sake of experimentation and the spirit of transparency, this set of show notes alone was generated by AI Actions in the Descript editor we use to produce OEGlobal Voices.

Podcast Show Notes: OE Global Voices Episode 74: Tony Bates

In this enlightening episode of OE Global Voices, host Alan Levine is joined by the remarkable Dr. Tony Bates, an influential figure in the realm of open education.

Episode Highlights:

  • Introduction to Tony Bates: Discover the journey of a legend in open education, from his beginnings in England to key contributions at the Open University and beyond.
  • Open Education Insight: Tony discusses the limitations and potential of open education resources today, sharing insights rooted in his extensive experience.
  • Founding of the Open University: Gain behind-the-scenes knowledge of how the Open University was envisioned and established, expanding access to higher education with innovative methods such as integrating print, radio, and TV.
  • Role in Online Learning: Learn about Tony’s pioneering role in developing online learning approaches and his transition from traditional educational systems to digital landscapes.
  • Publishing and Open Resources: Tony candidly shares why he embraced open publishing, emphasizing accessibility and the benefits of keeping educational resources current.
  • Reflections on Artificial Intelligence: Tony offers a balanced view of AI’s potential and risks, particularly concerning big tech companies’ influence.

About Tony Bates:
Tony Bates has been a transformative presence in education, contributing through teaching, leadership, research, and writing. He’s known for his candid take on the state of education, often sharing personal anecdotes from his storied career.

Get Engaged:
Listen as Tony Bates reflects on a career filled with innovation, humor, and lasting impact. Follow up on our discussions about educational technology and AI.

This episode is accompanied by the musical track “Distance” by Anitek, fittingly chosen to reflect the expansive themes of Tony’s work. Visit OEGlobal Voices for more episodes and join our community discussions at OEG Connect.

Don’t miss this journey through impactful education landscapes with Tony Bates. Subscribe and engage with us for future insights and conversations.

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Additional Links and Quotes for Episode 74

What happened was that I actually saw the internet for the first time in Vancouver when I was visiting a friend. I thought this is the best way to use computers in education, not this, programmed learning stuff, which I didn’t really like because it wasn’t in my view, achieving the higher level cognitive skills that you’d want from university students. It’s all about memorization and so on.

So I thought, yes, we can use computers for communication between students and between students and instructors, that’s great. And a colleague, Tony Kay and I we tried this out on a social science second level course called DT 200.

Tony Bates on early vision for online education

From very interesting things like audio, we found that generally, you know, this is a generalization, doesn’t apply to everybody. But most people that we researched found audio more personal, that they felt they got closer to the lecturer through listening to an audio, a radio broadcaster or an audio cassette. The other thing was that we found that cassettes, actually changed the design principles because students could stop and start. You could build that into the design of a cassette. And then the learning effectiveness went right up.

We had a perfect laboratory situation where we had exactly the same program in audio and radio and exactly the same as a recording. Then we could look at what students learn as a result. We could then change the design of the cassettes and see what happened then and look at the results. Because we had such large numbers of students, we got very statistically significant results.

Tony Bates on early research on use of audio for learning

My take on it, I’m fairly pessimistic. Mainly because my real concern these days is about the power of the big tech companies. I fear it will be taken over by the big tech companies. We’ll see their share prices and stocks go up and the money will go to the venture capitalists. And we’ll all be worse off as a result.

That’s the negative part about it. Now on the positive side, I think yes, in medical research, in legal affairs, it will be very good. I met a colleague, a good friend of mine actually, who’s trying to do research on whether AI can actually improve on the instructional design process.

Tony Bates on Artificial Intelligence

We are counting on more blog posts from you, Tony!


Our open licensed music for this episode is a track called Distance by Anitek licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial-Share Alike 3.0 License. Like most of our podcast music, it was found at the Free Music Archive (see our full FMA playlist).

This was another episode we are recording on the web in Squadcast. This is part of the Descript platform for AI enabled transcribing and editing audio in text– this has greatly enhanced our ability to produce our showsWe have been exploring some of the other AI features in Descriptbut our posts remain human authored unless indicated otherwise.

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OEG Voices 073: Board Viewpoints with Katsusuke Shigeta and Rajiv Jhangiani
SEP 10, 2024
OEG Voices 073: Board Viewpoints with Katsusuke Shigeta and Rajiv Jhangiani

Get to know the influences, insights, and perspectives of two of the current members of the OEGlobal Board of Directors. In this episode we listen to separately recorded conversations with Katsusuke Shigeta, a long time board member from University of Hokkaido in Sapporo, Japan plus hearing from one of our newer board members, Rajiv Jhangiani of Brock University, in Ontario, Canada. This is another episode of our Board Viewpoints series.

Katsu was a guest on our second episode of OEGlobal Voices, published in 2020. And we last had a podcast conversation with Rajiv in 2021 following his recognition of an OE Award for Excellence as an Emerging Leader. Much has changed and evolved for both these open educators who play a key role for Open Education Global.

Each guest shares a bit about the places in the world they grew up, perspectives on school, paths to open education, current interests and projects, plus a little bit about what they enjoy doing outside of work. Listen to the full episode to hear interesting surprises from both Katsu and Rajiv, plus they share a three word description of each other!

In This Episode

FYI: For the sake of experimentation and the spirit of transparency, this set of show notes alone was generated by AI Actions in the Descript editor we use to produce OEGlobal Voices.

In Episode 73 of OEGlobal Voices, host Alan Levine welcomes two members of the OEGlobal Board of Directors: Katsusuke Shigeta and Rajiv Jhangiani. Katsu discusses the importance of understanding and incorporating open educational practices internationally, and shares updates on his OER initiatives, challenges, and his creative project with Adobe Express. Rajiv reflects on his journey into open education, current initiatives at Brock University, and broader discussions on open science and generative AI. The episode concludes with personal stories and insights from both guests, painting a comprehensive picture of their contributions to open education.

  • Intro Music and Selected Episode Quotes
  • Meet Katsu Shigeta
  • Changes in Education Post-COVID
  • Challenges and Successes in OER Projects
  • Creative Learning with Adobe Express
  • Perceptions of Open Education in Japan
  • Rajiv Jhangiani Joins the Conversation
  • Navigating Life as an International Student
  • A Twist of Fate: From Theater to Psychology
  • Discovering Open Education
  • Provincial Research and Institutional Self-Assessment
  • Current Projects and Initiatives at Brock
  • The Future of Open Education
  • Balancing Work and Personal Life
  • Closing Thoughts and Reflections

Additional Links and Quotes for Episode 73

This is a point, I focus on to have better skills and knowledge [on] how to create digital materials would be nice for students to show their outcomes and what they learn in the class. This kind of skill could be effective after they graduate the higher education institution. So I try to connect the creative learning creative learning aspects, to show the authentic assessment and show the learning outcomes in the university together.

Katsu Shigeta on teaching digital skills
Katsu shared this photo of the `1991 Honda Beat he has restored and enjoys driving around the roads of Hokkaido.

I think that’s part of the joy to interact with folks like that, who again, like Robin [DeRosa], give you the confidence and support that you can experiment, that you can, improvise, and you can do so knowing that it’s all right. If you fall flat, it’s okay. It’s not a big deal.

And that’s part of that vulnerability of openness. And I think modeling that is important, but it’s a special treat to be able to do it, especially in front of people who you adore so much.

Rajiv Jhangiani on OER24 keynote

And I think one concern in general, which has already been an issue is just the, it’s like paving over the etymology of knowledge. a core value of open licensing is attribution.

Losing that is damaging, is dangerous. It’s theft. So that’s damaging. The normalization of that, because this is going to happen anyway. You’re denying progress if you’re not serving students, if you don’t equip them to use. What I think is really missing over here is that critical, generative AI literacy.

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And every time you’re going to get the same kind of little jingle around it’s here and it’s going to hit you. And you can’t bury your head in the sand. But at the same time, I think what you don’t want to do either is to not just not bury your head in the sand, but not just stand there on the shore with your mouth open wide and just swallow the salt water without thinking.

Rajiv Jhangiani on Artificial Intelligence and values of openness
Rajiv Jhangiani shows that his CC license is real- a carving made by the partner of Rajiv’s colleague Robin DeRosa

Our open licensed music for this episode is a track called The View From The Window by Ian Sutherland licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial-Share Alike 3.0 License. Like most of our podcast music, it was found at the Free Music Archive (see our full FMA playlist).

This was another episode we are recording on the web in Squadcast. This is part of the Descript platform for AI enabled transcribing and editing audio in text– this has greatly enhanced our ability to produce our showsWe have been exploring some of the other AI features in Descriptbut our posts remain human authored unless indicated otherwise.

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56 MIN