<p>PhD candidate, fellow nerd, and renaissance man Carl Tutton tells me the difference between an iPhone and a fridge, and we discuss what's in common between an obsession with material goods and a drug addiction&nbsp;</p> <p><em>How to Save a Planet</em> podcast referred to multiple times in this episode: https://open.spotify.com/episode/5Dmp79iTEVqizinjOmjGpP?si=0a04c8ab632c40e8&nbsp;</p>