Kier-La talks to Nelvana co-founder Clive A. Smith and musician/songwriter John Sebastian about the 1978 Canadian Halloween special from which this podcast derives its name, as well as delving into Nelvana's early years and their ill-fated feature, Rock and Rule. ----more---- Credits: Written, edited and hosted by: Kier-La Janisse Special Guests: Clive Smith and John Sebastian Clips from: The Devil and Daniel Mouse ©1978 Nelvana Limited Mr. Pencil Draws the Line ©1975 Nelvana Limited A Cosmic Christmas ©1977 Nelvana Limited Inside Out ©1972 National Instructional Television Center How We Made The Devil and Daniel Mouse ©1978 Nelvana Limited White Line Fever ©1975 Columbia Pictures Industries  Rock and Rule ©1983 Nelvana Limited Inspector Gadget ©1983 DHX Media Excerpt from "Welcome Back" ©1976 Reprise Records Episode adapted from Kier-La Janisse's book chapter in The Canadian Horror Film: Terror of the Soul, edited by Gina Freitag and Andre Loiselle, University of Toronto Press, 2014. Incidental music: Robert Farmer, "Why Seeming so Fast but so Deadly Slow" from freemusicarchive.org  Special Thanks to Amanda Reyes and Bill Ackerman Theme Song: "Hot Fudge Holy Moley" from WXYZ-TV's The Hot Fudge Show (1974-1980) Logo by Sinead Yau at Mojo Valley