On this episode, I am joined by romantic comedy scholar <a href="https://www.ellaceron.com/" target="_blank">Ella Cerón</a>, who is also the author of the excellent coming-of-age YA novel <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/viva-lola-espinoza-ella-ceron/18454017?gclid=CjwKCAjw5_GmBhBIEiwA5QSMxNCtliNFubjFbUM_27R6F_j147c38A4YBiX21z126BTYlrLhyNfoqRoCQYEQAvD_BwE">Viva Lola Espinoza</a>. We talked about rom-coms and their tropes, especially focusing on Pride & Prejudice (2005) and Fire Island. Ella also recommends a bunch of her favorite romantic comedies, explains who Mr. Wickham is and why he’s an example of an important archetype, caramel Frappuccinos on Christmas, and much more. Come for the deep dive, stay for the stray meows from Ella's cat, Olive.Buy Ella’s book ASAP: <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/viva-lola-espinoza-ella-ceron/18454017?gclid=CjwKCAjw5_GmBhBIEiwA5QSMxNCtliNFubjFbUM_27R6F_j147c38A4YBiX21z126BTYlrLhyNfoqRoCQYEQAvD_BwE">Viva Lola Espinoza</a>. And follow her on <a href="https://twitter.com/ellaceron">Twitter</a>, <a href="https://www.instagram.com/ellaceron/">Instagram</a>, and <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@jeannakadlec">Tiktok.</a>Things we talked about:<ul><li>Almost Famous</li><li>The Wedding Planner </li><li>Hitch</li><li>How to Lose a Guy in 10 Days</li><li>Almost Famous</li><li>To All the Boys I’ve Loved Before</li><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/viva-lola-espinoza-ella-ceron/18454017?gclid=CjwKCAjw5_GmBhBIEiwA5QSMxNCtliNFubjFbUM_27R6F_j147c38A4YBiX21z126BTYlrLhyNfoqRoCQYEQAvD_BwE">Viva Lola Espinoza</a></li><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/manhunt-gretchen-felker-martin/17086522">Manhunt by Gretchen Felker-Martin</a></li></ul>Get Oh, I Like That merch <a href="https://www.teepublic.com/stores/oh-i-like-that">here</a>! This episode was produced by Sally and Ella and edited by <a href="http://aram.gay/">Aram Vartian</a>. Our logo was designed by Amber Seger (<a href="https://twitter.com/rocketorca">@rocketorca</a>). Our theme music is by Tiny Music. Follow us on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/ohilikethatpod/">@OhILikeThatPod</a>.

<description>&lt;p&gt;On this episode, I am joined by romantic comedy scholar &lt;a href="https://www.ellaceron.com/" target="_blank"&gt;Ella Cerón&lt;/a&gt;, who is also the author of the excellent coming-of-age YA novel &lt;a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/viva-lola-espinoza-ella-ceron/18454017?gclid=CjwKCAjw5_GmBhBIEiwA5QSMxNCtliNFubjFbUM_27R6F_j147c38A4YBiX21z126BTYlrLhyNfoqRoCQYEQAvD_BwE"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Viva Lola Espinoza&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;. We talked about rom-coms and their tropes, especially focusing on &lt;i&gt;Pride &amp; Prejudice &lt;/i&gt;(2005) and &lt;i&gt;Fire Island&lt;/i&gt;. Ella also recommends a bunch of her favorite romantic comedies, explains who Mr. Wickham is and why he’s an example of an important archetype, caramel Frappuccinos on Christmas, and much more. Come for the deep dive, stay for the stray meows from Ella's cat, Olive.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Buy Ella’s book ASAP: &lt;a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/viva-lola-espinoza-ella-ceron/18454017?gclid=CjwKCAjw5_GmBhBIEiwA5QSMxNCtliNFubjFbUM_27R6F_j147c38A4YBiX21z126BTYlrLhyNfoqRoCQYEQAvD_BwE"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Viva Lola Espinoza&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;i&gt; &lt;/i&gt;And follow her on &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/ellaceron"&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="https://www.instagram.com/ellaceron/"&gt;Instagram&lt;/a&gt;, and &lt;a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@jeannakadlec"&gt;Tiktok.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Things we talked about:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;i&gt;Almost Famous&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;i&gt;The Wedding Planner &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;i&gt;Hitch&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;i&gt;How to Lose a Guy in 10 Days&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;i&gt;Almost Famous&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;i&gt;To All the Boys I’ve Loved Before&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/viva-lola-espinoza-ella-ceron/18454017?gclid=CjwKCAjw5_GmBhBIEiwA5QSMxNCtliNFubjFbUM_27R6F_j147c38A4YBiX21z126BTYlrLhyNfoqRoCQYEQAvD_BwE"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Viva Lola Espinoza&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/manhunt-gretchen-felker-martin/17086522"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Manhunt&lt;/i&gt; by Gretchen Felker-Martin&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Get &lt;i&gt;Oh, I Like That&lt;/i&gt; merch &lt;a href="https://www.teepublic.com/stores/oh-i-like-that"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;! &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;This episode was produced by Sally and Ella and edited by &lt;a href="http://aram.gay/"&gt;Aram Vartian&lt;/a&gt;. Our logo was designed by Amber Seger (&lt;a href="https://twitter.com/rocketorca"&gt;@rocketorca&lt;/a&gt;). Our theme music is by Tiny Music. Follow us on Instagram &lt;a href="https://www.instagram.com/ohilikethatpod/"&gt;@OhILikeThatPod&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
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It IS a truth universally acknowledged!!!!!

The Bizarre Mating Calls of Heterosexuals feat. Ella Cerón

On this episode, I am joined by writer, astrologer, and teacher, <a href="https://www.jeannakadlec.com/">Jeanna Kadlec</a>, author of <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/heretic-a-memoir-jeanna-kadlec/18506748">Heretic: A Memoir</a>. We talked about Kadlec’s excellent book and how it braids her astute analysis and cultural history with her own memoir. Then we got deep into astrology and how it can inform how we see and understand what’s going on in our lives on both small and large scales. If you are interested in understanding astrology more, this episode is for you!Buy Jeanna’s book ASAP, it’s so good: <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/heretic-a-memoir-jeanna-kadlec/18506748">Heretic: A Memoir</a>! And follow her on <a href="https://twitter.com/jeannakadlec">Twitter</a>, <a href="https://www.instagram.com/jeannakadlec/">Instagram</a>, and <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@jeannakadlec">Tiktok</a>Things we talked about:<ul><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/virology-essays-for-the-living-the-dead-and-the-small-things-in-between-joseph-osmundson/17383240?gclid=CjwKCAjwpayjBhAnEiwA-7ena4-nPiz4SRlVBekUXFZPVoNcUMjQthyfar3DU4RJgE2WnyyroI0NJBoC0u8QAvD_BwE">Virology</a> by Joseph Osmundson</li><li>The work of author <a href="https://bookshop.org/contributors/melissa-febos">Melissa Febos</a></li><li>Astrologer on instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/ddamascenaa/?hl=en">Diana Rose Harper</a></li><li><a href="https://theastrologypodcast.com/2017/05/16/sam-reynolds-on-talking-astrology-with-bill-nye/">Sam Reynolds on Talking Astrology with Bill Nye</a></li><li>Stargazing on TLC</li><li><a href="https://astrostyle.com/?sscid=51k7_t203r">Astro Twins</a></li><li><a href="https://www.discoveryplus.com/ie/show/written-in-the-stars">Written in the Stars</a> astrological dating show</li><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/queer-cosmos-the-astrology-of-queer-identities-relationships-colin-bedell/230192?aid=14372&ean=9781627782937&listref=queer-astrology">Queer Cosmos: The Astrology of Queer Identities & Relationships</a> by Colin Bedell</li><li>Breach (2007)</li><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/viva-lola-espinoza-ella-ceron/18454017">¡Viva Lola Espinoza!</a> by Ella Cerón </li><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-hundred-thousand-kingdoms-n-k-jemisin/109016?ean=9780316043915&gclid=CjwKCAjwpayjBhAnEiwA-7ena_Q1PlZ9NuTd_iaDjIz6BkW8792OgJoizNenUcPKY91e0N-4omNVtBoChSUQAvD_BwE">The Hundred Thousand Kingdoms</a> by N. K. Jemisin</li></ul>Get Oh, I Like That merch <a href="https://www.teepublic.com/stores/oh-i-like-that">here</a>! This episode was produced by Sally and Jeanna and edited by <a href="http://aram.gay/">Aram Vartian</a>. Our logo was designed by Amber Seger (<a href="https://twitter.com/rocketorca">@rocketorca</a>). Our theme music is by Tiny Music. Follow us Instagram<a href="https://www.instagram.com/ohilikethatpod/"> @OhILikeThatPod</a>.

<description>&lt;p&gt;On this episode, I am joined by writer, astrologer, and teacher, &lt;a href="https://www.jeannakadlec.com/"&gt;Jeanna Kadlec&lt;/a&gt;, author of &lt;a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/heretic-a-memoir-jeanna-kadlec/18506748"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Heretic: A Memoir&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;. We talked about Kadlec’s excellent book and how it braids her astute analysis and cultural history with her own memoir. Then we got deep into astrology and how it can inform how we see and understand what’s going on in our lives on both small and large scales. If you are interested in understanding astrology more, this episode is for you!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Buy Jeanna’s book ASAP, it’s so good: &lt;a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/heretic-a-memoir-jeanna-kadlec/18506748"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Heretic: A Memoir&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;i&gt;! &lt;/i&gt;And follow her on &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/jeannakadlec"&gt;Twitter&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="https://www.instagram.com/jeannakadlec/"&gt;Instagram&lt;/a&gt;, and &lt;a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@jeannakadlec"&gt;Tiktok&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Things we talked about:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/virology-essays-for-the-living-the-dead-and-the-small-things-in-between-joseph-osmundson/17383240?gclid=CjwKCAjwpayjBhAnEiwA-7ena4-nPiz4SRlVBekUXFZPVoNcUMjQthyfar3DU4RJgE2WnyyroI0NJBoC0u8QAvD_BwE"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Virology&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;i&gt; &lt;/i&gt;by Joseph Osmundson&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The work of author&lt;i&gt; &lt;/i&gt;&lt;a href="https://bookshop.org/contributors/melissa-febos"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Melissa Febos&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Astrologer on instagram &lt;a href="https://www.instagram.com/ddamascenaa/?hl=en"&gt;Diana Rose Harper&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://theastrologypodcast.com/2017/05/16/sam-reynolds-on-talking-astrology-with-bill-nye/"&gt;Sam Reynolds on Talking Astrology with Bill Nye&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Stargazing on TLC&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://astrostyle.com/?sscid=51k7_t203r"&gt;Astro Twins&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.discoveryplus.com/ie/show/written-in-the-stars"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Written in the Stars&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;i&gt; astrological dating show&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/queer-cosmos-the-astrology-of-queer-identities-relationships-colin-bedell/230192?aid=14372&amp;ean=9781627782937&amp;listref=queer-astrology"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Queer Cosmos: The Astrology of Queer Identities &amp; Relationships&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt; by Colin Bedell&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;i&gt;Breach (2007)&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/viva-lola-espinoza-ella-ceron/18454017"&gt;¡Viva Lola Espinoza!&lt;/a&gt; by Ella Cerón &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-hundred-thousand-kingdoms-n-k-jemisin/109016?ean=9780316043915&amp;gclid=CjwKCAjwpayjBhAnEiwA-7ena_Q1PlZ9NuTd_iaDjIz6BkW8792OgJoizNenUcPKY91e0N-4omNVtBoChSUQAvD_BwE"&gt;&lt;i&gt;The Hundred Thousand Kingdoms&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt; by N. K. Jemisin&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Get &lt;i&gt;Oh, I Like That&lt;/i&gt; merch &lt;a href="https://www.teepublic.com/stores/oh-i-like-that"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;! &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;This episode was produced by Sally and Jeanna and edited by &lt;a href="http://aram.gay/"&gt;Aram Vartian&lt;/a&gt;. Our logo was designed by Amber Seger (&lt;a href="https://twitter.com/rocketorca"&gt;@rocketorca&lt;/a&gt;). Our theme music is by Tiny Music. Follow us Instagram&lt;a href="https://www.instagram.com/ohilikethatpod/"&gt; @OhILikeThatPod&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
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Ngl this is a great Astrology 101!

Astrology, Planetary Transits, and Related Memes feat. Jeanna Kadlec

On this episode, I am joined by noted Cate Blanchett enthusiast and Scorpio, Aubrey Gordon (<a href="https://twitter.com/yrfatfriend">@yrfatfriend)</a> who you know from the excellent podcast <a href="https://www.maintenancephase.com/">Maintenance Phase</a>. We talked about (and spoiled btw) the movie Tár. We talked about queer anti-heroes/villains, what this movie says (if anything) about cancel culture, whether this is a horror movie, and a lot more.Buy Aubrey’s books on <a href="https://bookshop.org/contributors/aubrey-gordon">Bookshop</a>. Things we talked about:<ul><li>Imitation of Life </li><li>Can You Ever Forgive Me?</li><li>Michael Clayton</li><li>Carol</li><li><a href="https://www.worstideaofalltime.com/">The Worst Idea of All Time</a> podcast</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/bestideaalltime?lang=en">The Best Idea of All Time</a> podcast</li><li>“‘Tár,’ Reviewed: Regressive Ideas to Match Regressive Aesthetics” by Richard Brody for The New Yorker</li><li>“Tár is actually a horror movie” by Martin Millman for Collider</li><li><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/blankies/comments/yzn1sn/t%C3%A1r_spooky_stuff/">Thread</a> from r/blankies about ghosts in the movie Tár</li></ul>Get Oh, I Like That merch <a href="https://www.teepublic.com/stores/oh-i-like-that">here</a>! This episode was produced by Sally and Aubrey and edited by <a href="http://aram.gay/">Aram Vartian</a>. Our logo was designed by Amber Seger (<a href="https://twitter.com/rocketorca">@rocketorca</a>). Our theme music is by Tiny Music. Follow us Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/ohilikethatpod/">@OhILikeThatPod</a>.

<description>&lt;p&gt;On this episode, I am joined by noted Cate Blanchett enthusiast and Scorpio, Aubrey Gordon (&lt;a href="https://twitter.com/yrfatfriend"&gt;@yrfatfriend)&lt;/a&gt; who you know from the excellent podcast &lt;a href="https://www.maintenancephase.com/"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Maintenance Phase&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;i&gt;.&lt;/i&gt; We talked about (and spoiled btw) the movie &lt;i&gt;Tár&lt;/i&gt;. We talked about queer anti-heroes/villains, what this movie says (if anything) about cancel culture, whether this is a horror movie, and a lot more.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Buy Aubrey’s books on &lt;a href="https://bookshop.org/contributors/aubrey-gordon"&gt;Bookshop&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Things we talked about:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;i&gt;Imitation of Life &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;i&gt;Can You Ever Forgive Me?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;i&gt;Michael Clayton&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;i&gt;Carol&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.worstideaofalltime.com/"&gt;&lt;i&gt;The Worst Idea of All Time&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;i&gt; podcast&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://twitter.com/bestideaalltime?lang=en"&gt;&lt;i&gt;The Best Idea of All Time&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;i&gt; podcast&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;“‘Tár,’ Reviewed: Regressive Ideas to Match Regressive Aesthetics” by Richard Brody for &lt;i&gt;The New Yorker&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;“Tár is actually a horror movie” by Martin Millman for&lt;i&gt; Collider&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/blankies/comments/yzn1sn/t%C3%A1r_spooky_stuff/"&gt;Thread&lt;/a&gt; from r/blankies about ghosts in the movie &lt;i&gt;Tár&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Get &lt;i&gt;Oh, I Like That&lt;/i&gt; merch &lt;a href="https://www.teepublic.com/stores/oh-i-like-that"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;! &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;This episode was produced by Sally and Aubrey and edited by &lt;a href="http://aram.gay/"&gt;Aram Vartian&lt;/a&gt;. Our logo was designed by Amber Seger (&lt;a href="https://twitter.com/rocketorca"&gt;@rocketorca&lt;/a&gt;). Our theme music is by Tiny Music. Follow us Instagram &lt;a href="https://www.instagram.com/ohilikethatpod/"&gt;@OhILikeThatPod&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
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Sally, Aubrey, and Petra’s father: The gang’s all here.

Flawed Queers on Screen feat. Aubrey Gordon

On this episode I’m joined by <a href="https://twitter.com/joshgondelman">Josh Gondelman</a> to talk about why being an NBA fan is a great hobby no matter how into sports you are or are not. We talked about doing trash talk but nicely, building community via sports fandom, which NBA team to become a fan of depending on what vibes you are in search of, and lots more.  Get Oh, I Like That merch <a href="https://www.teepublic.com/stores/oh-i-like-that">here</a>! Things we talked about:<ul><li><a href="https://twitter.com/joshgondelman">Josh on Twitter</a></li><li>Josh’s newsletter <a href="https://joshgondelman.substack.com/">That’s Marvelous!</a></li><li><a href="https://www.joshgondelman.com/schedule/">Josh’s touring schedule</a></li><li>Bill Burr’s Philly rant</li><li><a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@joshgondelman/video/7198184763742637358">Josh’s standup set in Philly when he talked about the Eagles being in the Super Bowl</a></li><li>Spinsters podcast episodes: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/an-ode-to-black-hair-the-stories/id1549716001?i=1000552096987">an ode to Black hair</a>, <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/3-what-it-feels-like-to-be-traded-with-katie-heindl/id1549716001?i=1000514984682">what it feels like to get traded</a>, and <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/living-in-the-gray-with-jessica-luther-the-stories/id1549716001?i=1000537592998">reckoning with how pro sports teams deal with sexual assault and domestic violence</a></li><li><a href="https://www.sho.com/desus-and-mero">Desus & Mero</a></li><li>Zach Lowe’s podcast <a href="http://www.espn.com/espnradio/podcast/archive/_/id/10528553">The Lowe Post</a></li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCvBBFEnGM4">Chicago Bull Patrick Beverly showing a ref a missed foul on a camera</a></li><li>Katie Heindl’s newsletter <a href="https://basketballfeelings.substack.com/">Basketball Feelings</a></li><li><a href="https://www.theringer.com/nba/2023/3/21/23639331/jaylen-brown-nba-boston-celtics">Jaylen Brown Is Trying to Find a Balance</a> by Logan Murdock for The Ringer</li><li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tipping-pitches/id1265588219">Tipping Pitches</a></li><li><a href="https://www.flagrantmag.com/">Flagrant Magazine</a></li><li>NBA fits of the week from <a href="https://www.instagram.com/laurajanefaulds/?hl=en">Laura Jane Faulds</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/nbapaints/">NBA Paints</a></li><li>Joel Embiid trolling Ben Simmons with the  <a href="https://www.thescore.com/nba/news/2295939">“RIP Bozo” meme</a></li></ul>This episode was produced by Sally and Josh and edited by <a href="http://aram.gay/">Aram Vartian</a>. Our logo was designed by Amber Seger (<a href="https://twitter.com/rocketorca">@rocketorca</a>). Our theme music is by Tiny Music. Follow us on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/ohilikethatpod/">@OhILikeThatPod</a>.

<description>&lt;p&gt;On this episode I’m joined by &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/joshgondelman"&gt;Josh Gondelman&lt;/a&gt; to talk about why being an NBA fan is a great hobby no matter how into sports you are or are not. We talked about doing trash talk but nicely, building community via sports fandom, which NBA team to become a fan of depending on what vibes you are in search of, and lots more.  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Get &lt;i&gt;Oh, I Like That&lt;/i&gt; merch &lt;a href="https://www.teepublic.com/stores/oh-i-like-that"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;! &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Things we talked about:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://twitter.com/joshgondelman"&gt;Josh on Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Josh’s newsletter &lt;a href="https://joshgondelman.substack.com/"&gt;&lt;i&gt;That’s Marvelous!&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.joshgondelman.com/schedule/"&gt;Josh’s touring schedule&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Bill Burr’s Philly rant&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@joshgondelman/video/7198184763742637358"&gt;Josh’s standup set in Philly when he talked about the Eagles being in the Super Bowl&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Spinsters podcast episodes: &lt;a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/an-ode-to-black-hair-the-stories/id1549716001?i=1000552096987"&gt;an ode to Black hair&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/3-what-it-feels-like-to-be-traded-with-katie-heindl/id1549716001?i=1000514984682"&gt;what it feels like to get traded&lt;/a&gt;, and &lt;a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/living-in-the-gray-with-jessica-luther-the-stories/id1549716001?i=1000537592998"&gt;reckoning with how pro sports teams deal with sexual assault and domestic violence&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.sho.com/desus-and-mero"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Desus &amp; Mero&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Zach Lowe’s podcast &lt;a href="http://www.espn.com/espnradio/podcast/archive/_/id/10528553"&gt;&lt;i&gt;The Lowe Post&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCvBBFEnGM4"&gt;Chicago Bull Patrick Beverly showing a ref a missed foul on a camera&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Katie Heindl’s newsletter &lt;a href="https://basketballfeelings.substack.com/"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Basketball Feelings&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.theringer.com/nba/2023/3/21/23639331/jaylen-brown-nba-boston-celtics"&gt;Jaylen Brown Is Trying to Find a Balance&lt;/a&gt; by Logan Murdock for &lt;i&gt;The Ringer&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tipping-pitches/id1265588219"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Tipping Pitches&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.flagrantmag.com/"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Flagrant Magazine&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;NBA fits of the week from &lt;a href="https://www.instagram.com/laurajanefaulds/?hl=en"&gt;Laura Jane Faulds&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.instagram.com/nbapaints/"&gt;NBA Paints&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Joel Embiid trolling Ben Simmons with the  &lt;a href="https://www.thescore.com/nba/news/2295939"&gt;“RIP Bozo” meme&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;This episode was produced by Sally and Josh and edited by &lt;a href="http://aram.gay/"&gt;Aram Vartian&lt;/a&gt;. Our logo was designed by Amber Seger (&lt;a href="https://twitter.com/rocketorca"&gt;@rocketorca&lt;/a&gt;). Our theme music is by Tiny Music. Follow us on Instagram &lt;a href="https://www.instagram.com/ohilikethatpod/"&gt;@OhILikeThatPod&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
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PSA: The NBA has some of the best storylines, heroes, heels, and drama on all of television. 

The NBA Cinematic Universe feat. Josh Gondelman

For this episode, I’m joined by <a href="http://www.rachelvoronacote.com">Rachel Vorona Cote</a> (<a href="https://twitter.com/RVoronaCote">@RVoronaCote</a>), author of the excellent book <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/too-much-how-victorian-constraints-still-bind-women-today-rachel-vorona-cote/7395148?ean=9781538729700&gclid=Cj0KCQiAi8KfBhCuARIsADp-A56KtYLH51BiYnv7oJEWVY-3og9kB5u9ZraqQp1OMN5ovZQ7TeSGEj4aAoONEALw_wcB">Too Much: How Victorian Constraints Still Bind Women Today</a> to talk about the concept of “too muchness” (or, how social norms and expectations constrain women’s bodies, minds, and sexualities). Specifically, we looked at too muchness and the BBC series on HBO Gentleman Jack, a series based on the diaries of Anne Lister, aka “the first modern lesbian" who lived from 1791 to 1840. We talked about too muchness and: Anne Lister’s gender and sexuality, women’s mental health and the threat of institutionalization, and lots more. It was GREAT.Get Oh, I Like That merch <a href="https://www.teepublic.com/stores/oh-i-like-that">here</a>! This episode was produced by Sally and Rachel and edited by <a href="http://aram.gay/">Aram Vartian</a>. Our logo was designed by Amber Seger (<a href="https://twitter.com/rocketorca">@rocketorca</a>). Our theme music is by Tiny Music. Follow us on Twitter<a href="https://twitter.com/ohilikethatpod"> @OhILikeThatPod</a> and on Instagram<a href="https://www.instagram.com/ohilikethatpod/"> @OhILikeThatPod</a>.Things we talked about:<ul><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/too-much-how-victorian-constraints-still-bind-women-today-rachel-vorona-cote/7395148?ean=9781538729700&gclid=Cj0KCQiA6LyfBhC3ARIsAG4gkF8UELS3PAfytiGYphD5TeOYd5NZVD0Sse8lUm1v7qigz7_RrKU8EvQaAsO8EALw_wcB">Too Much: How Victorian Constraints Still Bind Women Today</a> by Rachel Vorona Cote</li><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-forbidden-notebook-alba-de-cespedes/18759807">Forbidden Notebook</a> by Alba de Céspedes</li><li><a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/gentleman-jack-movie-tie-in-the-real-anne-lister-anne-choma/6662224">Gentleman Jack: The Real Anne Lister</a> by Anne Choma</li><li><a href="https://www.parliament.uk/about/living-heritage/evolutionofparliament/houseofcommons/reformacts/overview/reformact1832/">The Reform Act of 1832</a></li><li>Tim Burton’s <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1014759/">Alice in Wonderland</a> (2010)</li><li><a href="https://www.powells.com/book/-9781250040213/">The Victorian City: Everyday Life in Dickens’ London</a> by Judith Flanders</li><li>Sally's Veronica Mars newsletter <a href="https://www.marsinvestigations.xyz/">Mars Investigations</a></li><li><a href="https://www.autostraddle.com/my-gender-is-maximalism/">My Gender is Maximalism</a> by Frankie de la Cretaz for Autostraddle</li><li>Pretty Hate Machine by Nine Inch Nails</li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2442560/">Peaker Blinders</a> (2013-2022)</li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14269590/">Poker Face</a> (2023)</li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/juliastmi">Julia Furlan</a>’s <a href="https://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewMultiRoom?cc=us&fcId=1672115880&mt=2">podcast recs for Women’s History Month</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/alexlaughs">Alex Sujong Laughlin</a>’s <a href="https://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewMultiRoom?cc=us&fcId=1672115877&mt=2">podcast recs for Women’s History Month</a></li></ul>

<description>&lt;p&gt;For this episode, I’m joined by &lt;a href="http://www.rachelvoronacote.com"&gt;Rachel Vorona Cote&lt;/a&gt; (&lt;a href="https://twitter.com/RVoronaCote"&gt;@RVoronaCote&lt;/a&gt;), author of the excellent book &lt;a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/too-much-how-victorian-constraints-still-bind-women-today-rachel-vorona-cote/7395148?ean=9781538729700&amp;gclid=Cj0KCQiAi8KfBhCuARIsADp-A56KtYLH51BiYnv7oJEWVY-3og9kB5u9ZraqQp1OMN5ovZQ7TeSGEj4aAoONEALw_wcB"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Too Much: How Victorian Constraints Still Bind Women Today&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt; to talk about the concept of “too muchness” (or, how social norms and expectations constrain women’s bodies, minds, and sexualities). Specifically, we looked at too muchness and the BBC series on HBO &lt;i&gt;Gentleman Jack&lt;/i&gt;, a series based on the diaries of Anne Lister, aka “the first modern lesbian" who lived from 1791 to 1840. We talked about too muchness and: Anne Lister’s gender and sexuality, women’s mental health and the threat of institutionalization, and lots more. It was GREAT.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Get &lt;i&gt;Oh, I Like That&lt;/i&gt; merch &lt;a href="https://www.teepublic.com/stores/oh-i-like-that"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;! &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;This episode was produced by Sally and Rachel and edited by &lt;a href="http://aram.gay/"&gt;Aram Vartian&lt;/a&gt;. Our logo was designed by Amber Seger (&lt;a href="https://twitter.com/rocketorca"&gt;@rocketorca&lt;/a&gt;). Our theme music is by Tiny Music. Follow us on Twitter&lt;a href="https://twitter.com/ohilikethatpod"&gt; @OhILikeThatPod&lt;/a&gt; and on Instagram&lt;a href="https://www.instagram.com/ohilikethatpod/"&gt; @OhILikeThatPod&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Things we talked about:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/too-much-how-victorian-constraints-still-bind-women-today-rachel-vorona-cote/7395148?ean=9781538729700&amp;gclid=Cj0KCQiA6LyfBhC3ARIsAG4gkF8UELS3PAfytiGYphD5TeOYd5NZVD0Sse8lUm1v7qigz7_RrKU8EvQaAsO8EALw_wcB"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Too Much: How Victorian Constraints Still Bind Women Today&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt; by Rachel Vorona Cote&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-forbidden-notebook-alba-de-cespedes/18759807"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Forbidden Notebook&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt; by Alba de Céspedes&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/gentleman-jack-movie-tie-in-the-real-anne-lister-anne-choma/6662224"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Gentleman Jack: The Real Anne Lister&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt; by Anne Choma&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.parliament.uk/about/living-heritage/evolutionofparliament/houseofcommons/reformacts/overview/reformact1832/"&gt;The Reform Act of 1832&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Tim Burton’s &lt;a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1014759/"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Alice in Wonderland&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt; (2010)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.powells.com/book/-9781250040213/"&gt;&lt;i&gt;The Victorian City: Everyday Life in Dickens’ London&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt; by Judith Flanders&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Sally's &lt;i&gt;Veronica Mars&lt;/i&gt; newsletter &lt;a href="https://www.marsinvestigations.xyz/"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Mars Investigations&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.autostraddle.com/my-gender-is-maximalism/"&gt;My Gender is Maximalism&lt;/a&gt; by Frankie de la Cretaz for Autostraddle&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;i&gt;Pretty Hate Machine&lt;/i&gt; by Nine Inch Nails&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2442560/"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Peaker Blinders&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;i&gt; &lt;/i&gt;(2013-2022)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14269590/"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Poker Face&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;i&gt; &lt;/i&gt;(2023)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://twitter.com/juliastmi"&gt;Julia Furlan&lt;/a&gt;’s &lt;a href="https://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewMultiRoom?cc=us&amp;fcId=1672115880&amp;mt=2"&gt;podcast recs for Women’s History Month&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://twitter.com/alexlaughs"&gt;Alex Sujong Laughlin&lt;/a&gt;’s &lt;a href="https://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewMultiRoom?cc=us&amp;fcId=1672115877&amp;mt=2"&gt;podcast recs for Women’s History Month&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;
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Talkin’ “Gentleman Jack” and Victorian sensibilities


“Gentleman Jack” and Too Muchness feat. Rachel Vorona Cote

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