Check out this conversation between Joe Fisher and Eleanor Hyde then listen to Eleanor's new show World Gone Wrong!For more information on World Gone Wrong: https://www.audaciousmachinecreative.com/world-gone-wrongMalik: Michael TurrentineJamie: Hilary WilliamsWritten by Jessica Best, directed and edited by Jeffrey Nils Gardner. Our theme song is "Falling in Love at the End of the World" by Olivia and the Lovers. Created and produced by Eleanor Hyde and Jeffrey Nils Gardner. From Audacious Machine Creative. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices