In this episode of the Ardan Labs Podcast, Bill Kennedy talks with Peter Swimm, founder of Toilville, about the future of AI and workplace automation. Peter shares insights from his long career in technology—from Microsoft to building large-scale conversational AI systems—and discusses the growing need for strong governance around AI usage. They explore privacy and IP concerns, the pitfalls of “vibe coding,” and why documentation and trust logs are essential for safe and effective AI adoption. The conversation also dives into generational shifts in education, the impact of COVID-19 on the job market, and how AI can enhance productivity without replacing authenticity.00:00 Introduction03:09 AI and Workplace Automation05:51 Privacy, IP, and Safety Concerns08:50 Vibe Coding and Development Challenges12:04 Governance and Compliance14:49 Evolution of AI Tools20:53 Early Tech Experiences31:28 Cultural Perspectives on AI36:31 AI and the Future of Education42:44 Career Paths and Experience50:54 Early Conversational AI56:15 COVID-19 and Contact Centers59:00 AI’s Future in Business01:02:42 From Microsoft to Entrepreneurship01:13:44 Navigating the AI Landscape01:28:02 Empowering Businesses with AI SolutionsConnect with Peter: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/peterswimm/Mentioned in this Episode:Toilville: https://www.toilville.com/Want more from Ardan Labs? You can learn Go, Kubernetes, Docker & more through our video training, live events, or through our blog!Online Courses : https://ardanlabs.com/education/ Live Events : https://www.ardanlabs.com/live-training-events/ Blog : https://www.ardanlabs.com/blog Github : https://github.com/ardanlabs