Just Get A Real Job
Just Get A Real Job

Just Get A Real Job

Jamie Mackinlay

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A podcast that demystifies the creative industries, hosted by Scottish Script Editor Jamie Mackinlay. Each week, Jamie chats with creatives at different stages of their careers about the highs, lows and everything in between. Perfect for anyone interested in working in the arts, Just Get A Real Job celebrates creativity in all its forms and offers insight, humour, and advice for anyone starting out or trying to navigate a career in the arts.

Recent Episodes

EP. 194 - 'How Do Debut Filmmakers Get Their Chance?' | Gabriella Leonardi
JUN 11, 2026
EP. 194 - 'How Do Debut Filmmakers Get Their Chance?' | Gabriella Leonardi
In this week's episode, Jamie is joined once again by writer and filmmaker Gabriella Leonardi. After moving to London for what was meant to be a two-month acting job, Gabriella is now pursuing a career as a writer and director, developing her own projects and navigating an industry that feels more risk-averse than ever.Gabriella speaks about:🎬 Why breaking into film feels harder than ever💰 Making your own work without money or industry connections⭐ How Sheridan Smith came to appear in one of her short films✉️ Why she decided to handwrite a letter to Steven Spielberg ❤️ How losing her grandad has made her even more determined to tell the stories that matter to her🎥 Why she's determined to keep telling the stories she believes in, rather than changing her voice to become more "marketable"💬 Rejection, resilience and what it really takes to build a creative career on your own terms. A brilliant conversation about what it's really like for many creatives currently. Find out more about Gabriella and her work:🌐 https://fillinghamweston.com/clients/name/gabriella-leonardi/📸 https://www.instagram.com/gabriellaleonardi/💙 Support the podcast on Patreon:https://www.patreon.com/justgetarealjob🌍 Stay connected with Just Get A Real Job:Instagram 📸https://www.instagram.com/justgetarealjobTikTok 🎬https://www.tiktok.com/@justgetarealjobX (Twitter) 🐦https://twitter.com/justgetarealjobAll links 🔗https://linktr.ee/Justgetarealjobpodcast
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EP. 193 - 'Why I Had To Leave TV' | Chloe Maylaw
JUN 4, 2026
EP. 193 - 'Why I Had To Leave TV' | Chloe Maylaw
In this week's episode, Jamie is joined by Chloe Maylaw for an honest conversation about leaving the TV industry, creative burnout and building a life that's more aligned with the work you actually want to make.After a few years of working in television, Chloe made the difficult decision to step away from what many would consider a dream career. She opens up about the realities of working in TV, the impact it had on her mental health, and why leaving ultimately allowed her to focus on her real passion: writing and directing.Chloe spoke about:🎬 Why she decided to leave the TV industry💼 How a more traditional 9-5 has given her more time and energy to create🧠 Mental health and trying to find balance as a creative📱 Building an online audience through honest and relatable videos about her experiences🎥 Making your own work and creating opportunities💬 What the TV and film industries need to do better, informed by her current work in HRA thoughtful and honest conversation about having the courage to change direction when something no longer feels right.Links📸 Chloe Maylaw Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chloemaylaw_/🔗 Chloe's Links & Projects: https://linktr.ee/chloemaylaw_💙 Support the podcast on Patreon:https://www.patreon.com/justgetarealjob🌍 Stay connected with Just Get A Real Job:Instagram 📸https://www.instagram.com/justgetarealjobTikTok 🎬https://www.tiktok.com/@justgetarealjobX (Twitter) 🐦https://twitter.com/justgetarealjobAll links 🔗https://linktr.ee/Justgetarealjobpodcast
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EP. 192 - 'Finding Humour in a Broken Industry' | Craig Manson
MAY 26, 2026
EP. 192 - 'Finding Humour in a Broken Industry' | Craig Manson
In this week’s episode, Jamie is joined by Glasgow-based performer and artist Craig Manson for an honest conversation about creativity, performance and the realities of working in the arts today.Known for his satirical and hilarious videos about the arts world, Craig chats about why his content has resonated so strongly with creatives online, and how humour can sometimes become a coping mechanism for industry frustrations.Craig spoke about:🎭 Building a career across theatre, live art, cabaret and performance📱 Creating viral content and finding an audience online😂 Why so many creatives “feel seen” by his videos🎟️ The realities and frustrations of working in the arts🎨 Coming from a remote part of Scotland and finding his way creatively🏴 His upcoming Fringe show Bunny💬 His advice for aspiring creatives and performers and moreA funny, thoughtful and refreshingly honest conversation about creativity, identity and trying to survive the arts world with your sense of humour intact.Recorded at The Podcast Studio Glasgow on the 11th of May 🎙️Out now on Spotify, Apple Podcasts & YouTube.This week’s episode is sponsored by rad Scotland.rad Scotland is a paid TV traineeship helping people from underrepresented backgrounds break into the Scottish TV industry through placements, training and mentoring.Applications close Wednesday 3rd June at 5pm:⁠https://trcmedia.org/training/rad-scotland/⁠🔗 Check out Craig’s work:Instagram 📸https://www.instagram.com/_craigmanson_/?hl=enFringe show 🎟️https://www.edfringe.com/tickets/whats-on/bunnyWebsite 🌍https://craigmanson.info/💙 Support the podcast on Patreon:https://www.patreon.com/justgetarealjob🌍 Stay connected with Just Get A Real Job:Instagram 📸https://www.instagram.com/justgetarealjobTikTok 🎬https://www.tiktok.com/@justgetarealjobX (Twitter) 🐦https://twitter.com/justgetarealjobAll links 🔗https://linktr.ee/Justgetarealjobpodcast
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EP. 191 - 'The Reality of Being an Artist' | David Kirkman
MAY 20, 2026
EP. 191 - 'The Reality of Being an Artist' | David Kirkman
In this week’s episode, Jamie is joined by abstract artist David Kirkman for an honest conversation about creativity, neurodivergence and what it’s really like to build a career in the arts today.David shares his journey into abstract painting, how ADHD and autism have shaped both his work and the way he sees the world, and the realities of trying to sustain a creative career.David opens up about:🎨 Finding his artistic style and creative voice🧠 The impact of ADHD and autism on creativity📱 Using social media to build an audience💸 The realities of making a living through art🖼️ Galleries, commissions and building relationships🎭 Mental health, creative pressure and self-expression💬 His advice for aspiring artistsA thoughtful and honest chat about creativity, identity and learning to trust your own process.Links:This week’s episode is sponsored by rad Scotland.rad Scotland is a paid TV traineeship helping people from underrepresented backgrounds break into the Scottish TV industry through placements, training and mentoring.Applications close Wednesday 3rd June at 5pm: https://trcmedia.org/training/rad-scotland/🎙️ EP.191 of Just Get A Real Job 🎧Out now on Spotify, Apple Podcasts & YouTube.🔗 Check out David’s work:Instagram 📸 https://www.instagram.com/dkirkmanart/Website 🎨 https://dkirkmanart.com/💙 Support the podcast on Patreon:https://www.patreon.com/justgetarealjob🌍 Stay connected with Just Get A Real Job:Instagram 📸 https://www.instagram.com/justgetarealjobTikTok 🎬 https://www.tiktok.com/@justgetarealjobX (Twitter) 🐦 https://twitter.com/justgetarealjobAll links 🔗 https://linktr.ee/Justgetarealjobpodcast
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57 MIN
EP. 190 - ‘What It’s Really Like Being a Poet in 2026' | Robbie Hood
APR 14, 2026
EP. 190 - ‘What It’s Really Like Being a Poet in 2026' | Robbie Hood
In this week’s episode, Jamie is joined by poet Robbie Hood to talk about what it actually looks like to build a creative career right now.From starting out at open mics to finding an audience online, Robbie shares his journey into poetry and how social media has helped him get his work seen by a wider audience.Robbie opens up about:🎤 Finding your voice as a poet📱 Social media and going viral💸 The realities of trying to make a living creatively🧠 Staying authentic in a crowded space🏠 How class still shapes access to the arts and creative opportunities📲 Being labelled an ‘Instagram poet’ and the complexity that comes with it.The conversation also explores the pressures of the industry today, navigating political themes in your work, and much more. An honest chat about creativity, visibility and what it takes to keep going.🎙️ EP.190 of Just Get A Real Job 🎧Out now on Spotify, Apple Podcasts & YouTube 🔗 Check out Robbie’s work Instagram 📸 https://www.instagram.com/robbie.hood.poetry/ YouTube 🎬 https://www.youtube.com/@Robbie-Hood-Poetry💙 Support the podcast on Patreon https://www.patreon.com/justgetarealjob🌍 Stay connected with Just Get A Real JobInstagram 📸 https://www.instagram.com/justgetarealjob TikTok 🎬 https://www.tiktok.com/@justgetarealjob X (Twitter) 🐦 https://twitter.com/justgetarealjob🎧 All links https://linktr.ee/Justgetarealjobpodcast
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61 MIN