Pou Temara grew up, literally, in the bush. He was sent to live with his grandparents in Te Urewera, to learn from them. He's now a professor of tikanga. Glenn meets him to learn about Māori masculinity, and shares notes on his own childhood, growing up as an urban Māori. He also talks to musician Troy Kingi about fatherhood, music and his culture. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices