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Hands up if you've learnt all about families from the Kardashians? Ross and Monica on Friends? This week on Relatively, Catherine Carr is joined by acclaimed journalist and Head of Editorial Content at Glamour UK, Kemi Alemoru, to unpack the siblings we’ve watched on TV, in films, and seen in popular culture. Kemi, the youngest of three girls (and self-proclaimed "baby"), shares hilarious stories from her own female-dominated household. From her dad staging a Lord of the Flies-style boardroom intervention to solve a sisterly argument to a family healing exercise that nearly started a forest fire, Kemi proves that real-life sisterhood is just as dramatic as reality TV. The episode takes a deep dive into the ultimate modern dynasty: the Kardashians. Kemi and Catherine explore the psychological basis for their sibling rivalry, tracing their evolution from a fun, chaotic sisterhood to a billionaire empire where exclusionary WhatsApp group chats and physical fights expose deep rifts. They also draw fascinating parallels between the Kardashians and England's original 1930s "It Girls", the Mitford sisters. The conversation touches on how extreme political differences and contrasting lifestyles can fracture even the tightest blood bonds, whether you are a high-society communist or a reality TV star. Plus, Kemi breaks down the iconic, highly-strung dynamic of Ross and Monica from Friends, and why shared houses in your 20s can create a "chosen family" that transcends DNA. This is a funny, sharp, and totally riveting conversation about the pop culture siblings we love to analyse, and the real-life family roles we can't escape.           If this one hit home, share it with your siblings. Subscribe to the Relatively Podcast channel so you never miss an episode: https://www.youtube.com/@relativelypodcast Listen to every episode here:https://pod.link/relatively Follow and connect with us: Facebook: @Relatively.pc Instagram: @relativelypodcast Website: https://www.relativelypodcast.com #Relatively #Kardashians #FamilyDynamics #PopCultureSiblings #MitfordSisters #Friends

Have you ever realised a blazing row with your partner might actually have nothing to do with them… and everything to do with your sibling dynamic growing up? This week on Relatively, Catherine Carr is joined by therapist Lisa Bruton to unpack the huge, and often subconscious, impact our brothers and sisters have on every aspect of adult life. Lisa, the youngest of three girls (still known by her sisters as “Podgy Poo”), explains why people regularly walk into therapy wanting to discuss marriage, work stress, or relationships… only to spend the session untangling sibling history instead. From birth order and sibling rivalry to Family Systems Theory, Catherine and Lisa explore why family gatherings can instantly drag us back into childhood roles, whether you were “the responsible one”, “the messy one”, or the peacekeeper in the middle trying to disappear entirely. The episode also dives into the growing rise of sibling therapy, with more adult siblings choosing to work through past wounds together to improve their future relationships. At its emotional core, this conversation tackles sibling estrangement, the guilt, shame, and silence surrounding stepping away from toxic family dynamics. Lisa also shares a surprisingly simple way to start breaking free from the labels your family still places on you, without causing a full family fallout. Featuring brilliant archive moments from past guests including Caitlin Moran, Gok Wan, and Dan Snow, this is a funny, eye-opening, and deeply validating episode that may completely change how you see your family and yourself. If this one hit home, share it with your siblings. Subscribe to the Relatively Podcast channel so you never miss an episode: https://www.youtube.com/@relativelypodcast Listen to every episode here: https://pod.link/relatively Follow and connect with us: Facebook: @Relatively.pc Instagram: @relativelypodcast Website: https://www.relativelypodcast.com/ #Relatively #SiblingTherapy #FamilyDynamics

Imagine being left out of your mother’s will. Do you fight for what you think is yours, or protect the relationship with the siblings who inherited everything? Acclaimed TV producer, screenwriter, and novelist Daisy Goodwin, creator of Victoria and producer of Grand Designs, joins Catherine Carr for one of the most open and emotionally honest conversations of the series. Daisy is the eldest of five, and she knows that role inside out. She describes the classic big sister as a “sheepdog”, always responsible, quietly keeping everyone in line, and often giving advice whether it’s asked for or not. She and Catherine swap stories about bossy older siblings, why eldest daughters often end up running the show, and what happens when two “eldest children” marry each other. They also get into sibling dynamics in the Royal Family, past and present, and how those familiar roles play out on a very public stage. Daisy also reacts to being in the same eldest-daughter club as Queen Elizabeth II, Beyoncé, and Taylor Swift. But at the heart of the episode is something deeper. Daisy shares what it felt like to be left out of her mother’s will, a real “body blow”, and the choice she made in how to respond. It’s a thoughtful, funny, and moving conversation about family, loyalty, and what we carry as eldest daughters. Subscribe to Daisy Goodwin's Substack here: https://substack.com/@daisygoodwin2 If this one hit home, share it with your siblings. Subscribe to the Relatively Podcast channel so you never miss an episode: https://www.youtube.com/@relativelypodcast Listen to every episode here: https://pod.link/relatively Follow and connect with us: Facebook: @Relativelypodcast Instagram: @relativelypodcast Website: https://www.relativelypodcast.com/ #Relatively #EldestDaughterSyndrome #Disinheritance

What happens when the interviewer becomes the interviewee? To kick off the return of Relatively, the tables are turned as author, poet, and presenter Salma El-Wardany takes over the host's chair momentarily from Catherine Carr. In a special twist, Salma interviews Catherine about her brand new book, Who's the Favourite?, exploring Catherine's own experiences as a middle child separated from her sisters during childhood, and her fascinating analogy of the family being like a constantly moving river. Salma puts Catherine on the spot by asking "Who is the Favourite?" in her family? Halfway through, the two swap seats to explore Salma’s own sibling story. Growing up home-educated as the youngest child alongside her older brother, Salma reveals she spent her early years desperately begging her parents for a baby sister. Salma opens up about her exhausting role as the family's "emotional superconductor" and peacekeeper during her parents' divorce, sparking a vital conversation about the emotional labor disproportionately expected of daughters And Salma gives a sneak preview of her upcoming series "Sunday Cervix". Beneath the laughter and the battle for the podcast's coveted badges, the episode dives into the profound, deep relationships we have with our siblings and just how much Catherine has learned making Relatively and writing Who's the Favourite? It is a beautifully honest, funny, and insightful conversation to kick off our series relaunch with the HERA network.

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