<p>This week on the <strong>EUVC Podcast</strong>, <a href="https://dk.linkedin.com/in/andreas-euvc/en" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer"><strong>Andreas Munk Holm</strong></a> sits down with <a href="http://uk.linkedin.com/in/matthew-wilson-671a757a" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer"><strong>Matthew Wilson</strong></a>, co-founder of <a href="https://jackandjill.ai/?utm_source=organic&amp;utm_channel=linkedin&amp;utm_campaign=linkedincompanypage" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer"><strong>Jack &amp; Jill</strong></a>, and <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/pspecht/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer"><strong>Peter Specht</strong></a>, General Partner at <a href="https://creandum.com/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer"><strong>Creandum</strong></a>. Fresh off a <strong>$20M seed</strong> to take their <strong>AI recruiting agents</strong> global, they dig into how conviction is built in Europe, from founding insight to investor belief, and what it now takes to scale an <strong>agent-native</strong> company with speed, precision, and craft.</p><p>Jack helps candidates find and optimize their careers. Jill helps companies hire brilliantly. Together, the two agents form a high-signal, two-sided network that aims to become the world’s most networked AI-powered recruitment agency — without the classical incentive conflicts of human middlemen.</p><p><strong>Here’s what’s covered:</strong></p><ul><li><p><strong>02:35</strong> | Why Creandum leaned in, conviction on voice-based interfaces and why recruiting is a massive, broken vertical for agent AI</p></li><li><p><strong>03:38</strong> | The founding moment: leaving Omnipresent, 18 months in the wilderness, and the February insight that agents make talent marketplaces finally viable</p></li><li><p><strong>07:07 </strong>| Recruiting is broken (and AI made it worse): why first-principles thinking is needed to avoid “more noise, not more signal.”</p></li><li><p><strong>09:15</strong> | Investor conviction: founder/market fit, why this moment is different, and the defensibility of a two-sided agentic marketplace</p></li><li><p><strong>12:22</strong> | The user experience: the “coffee chat” with an AI recruiter: deep voice conversation → matching, prep, coaching, introductions</p></li><li><p><strong>16:30</strong> | Solving the incentives trap: why Jack works 100% for candidates and Jill works 100% for companies (fixing agency conflicts)</p></li><li><p><strong>19:10</strong> | Coaching as core: how AI unlocks career guidance, interview prep, and hands-on support that humans rarely get today</p></li><li><p><strong>22:47</strong> | Building fast in the AI era: talent density, global expansion, and why a 20M seed makes sense for a dual-product marketplace</p></li><li><p><strong>26:35</strong> | Two companies in one: scaling Jack (consumer) + Jill (B2B) simultaneously, across markets, with AI leverage</p></li><li><p><strong>34:02</strong> | The GTM playbook: engineering-led marketing, AI-driven creative testing, instant value, and rethinking B2B buying entirely</p></li><li><p><strong>37:47</strong> | The new AI go-to-market: speed, PLG dominance, virality-by-design, and why distribution now matters more than ever</p></li><li><p><strong>43:52</strong> | Two GTM worlds: viral AI products vs. slow, enterprise-heavy AI deployments (and why both will coexist)</p></li><li><p><strong>47:15 </strong>| The “productization” of marketing — why engineering now powers growth, not headcount-heavy marketing orgs</p></li><li><p><strong>50:29</strong> | Final advice (VC POV) — start with a unique insight, not a trend; think in 5–10 year arcs, not quick ARR bumps</p></li></ul>