<description>&lt;p&gt;Francis is the Founder of Bull Bitcoin, one of the best bitcoin brokerage services. They recently launched a self custody mobile wallet on ios and android: Bull Wallet. This rip was earlier today, in person, in Lugano. We are both here for the PlanB Forum.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Francis on Nostr: &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;a href="https://primal.net/francis" target="_blank"&gt;https://primal.net/francis&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Francis on X: &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;a href="https://x.com/francispouliot_" target="_blank"&gt;https://x.com/francispouliot_&lt;/a&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Bull Wallet: &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;a href="https://wallet.bullbitcoin.com" target="_blank"&gt;https://wallet.bullbitcoin.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;PlanB Forum:&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;a href="https://planb.lugano.ch/planb-forum/" target="_blank"&gt;https://planb.lugano.ch/planb-forum/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;EPISODE: 181&lt;br /&gt;BLOCK: 920238&lt;br /&gt;PRICE: 929 sats per dollar&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;(00:00:00) Catching up from Lugano: old rips, 2019 memories, and lore&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;(00:01:07) Introducing Bull Wallet: goals, BDK under the hood, and UX vision&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;(00:02:21) Lightning lessons: LDK attempts, liquidity pain, and Phoenix tradeoffs&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;(00:04:38) Fee shocks and “just-in-time” channels: why Liquid entered the plan&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;(00:06:24) Liquid + Boltz atomic swaps: architecture, Rootstock notes, and standards push&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;(00:07:37) Designing for privacy and power users: Sparrow on mobile, Payjoin journey&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;(00:12:21) Data minimization in practice: no push, no cloud leaks, strict dependencies&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;(00:13:56) Shipping realities: iOS approval grind and cross‑platform necessity&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;(00:15:11) Secure versus Instant: Liquid framing, hype cycles, and collaborative custody&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;(00:19:13) The UX–compromise matrix: placing Liquid among trust models&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;(00:21:24) Auto‑swap safety rails: keeping Liquid balances modest by default&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;(00:24:26) Confidential transactions and buying flows: privacy wins via Liquid&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;(00:27:24) Swap providers and resilience: Boltz today, multi‑provider tomorrow&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;(00:31:05) Builders who ship: moving fast, potentially Ark or Spark in the future&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;(00:32:11) Why Ark: unilateral exits, pre‑confirmed states, and costs&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;(00:50:00) Ark tradeoffs without soft forks: watchtowers, refresh, and liveness&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;(00:57:15) Ark vs Liquid in Bull Wallet: timelines, reckless testing, and user defaults&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;(01:04:12) Payjoin, heuristics, and passive consolidation&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;(01:11:01) Consolidation strategies: Liquid swaps, CT, and fee‑aware UTXO management&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;(01:15:48) Lightning address UX with Liquid: directories, costs, and tiny payments&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;(01:17:10) Nostr as a wallet backend: zaps, contact book, and secure comms&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;(01:18:01) Multisig in practice: BitPay’s UX, Miniscript future, and mobile approvals&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;(01:20:19) Operator messaging and alerts: following npubs inside the app&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;(01:20:49) Core v30, OP_RETURN, and policy vs consensus&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;(01:31:09) Funding open source: OpenSats, private companies, and shipping culture&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;(01:35:15) Why open source keeps us sane: creativity, legacy, and closing notes&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;more info on the show: &lt;a href="https://citadeldispatch.com" target="_blank"&gt;https://citadeldispatch.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;learn more about me: &lt;a href="https://odell.xyz" target="_blank"&gt;https://odell.xyz&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>

Citadel Dispatch

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CD181: FRANCIS POULIOT - BULL BITCOIN SELF CUSTODY BULL WALLET

OCT 22, 202596 MIN
Citadel Dispatch

CD181: FRANCIS POULIOT - BULL BITCOIN SELF CUSTODY BULL WALLET

OCT 22, 202596 MIN

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<p>Francis is the Founder of Bull Bitcoin, one of the best bitcoin brokerage services. They recently launched a self custody mobile wallet on ios and android: Bull Wallet. This rip was earlier today, in person, in Lugano. We are both here for the PlanB Forum.<br /><br /><strong>Francis on Nostr: </strong><a href="https://primal.net/francis" target="_blank">https://primal.net/francis</a><br /><strong>Francis on X: </strong><a href="https://x.com/francispouliot_" target="_blank">https://x.com/francispouliot_</a><strong><br />Bull Wallet: </strong><a href="https://wallet.bullbitcoin.com" target="_blank">https://wallet.bullbitcoin.com</a><br /><strong>PlanB Forum:</strong> <a href="https://planb.lugano.ch/planb-forum/" target="_blank">https://planb.lugano.ch/planb-forum/</a><br /><br />EPISODE: 181<br />BLOCK: 920238<br />PRICE: 929 sats per dollar<br /><br /><p>(00:00:00) Catching up from Lugano: old rips, 2019 memories, and lore</p><p>(00:01:07) Introducing Bull Wallet: goals, BDK under the hood, and UX vision</p><p>(00:02:21) Lightning lessons: LDK attempts, liquidity pain, and Phoenix tradeoffs</p><p>(00:04:38) Fee shocks and “just-in-time” channels: why Liquid entered the plan</p><p>(00:06:24) Liquid + Boltz atomic swaps: architecture, Rootstock notes, and standards push</p><p>(00:07:37) Designing for privacy and power users: Sparrow on mobile, Payjoin journey</p><p>(00:12:21) Data minimization in practice: no push, no cloud leaks, strict dependencies</p><p>(00:13:56) Shipping realities: iOS approval grind and cross‑platform necessity</p><p>(00:15:11) Secure versus Instant: Liquid framing, hype cycles, and collaborative custody</p><p>(00:19:13) The UX–compromise matrix: placing Liquid among trust models</p><p>(00:21:24) Auto‑swap safety rails: keeping Liquid balances modest by default</p><p>(00:24:26) Confidential transactions and buying flows: privacy wins via Liquid</p><p>(00:27:24) Swap providers and resilience: Boltz today, multi‑provider tomorrow</p><p>(00:31:05) Builders who ship: moving fast, potentially Ark or Spark in the future</p><p>(00:32:11) Why Ark: unilateral exits, pre‑confirmed states, and costs</p><p>(00:50:00) Ark tradeoffs without soft forks: watchtowers, refresh, and liveness</p><p>(00:57:15) Ark vs Liquid in Bull Wallet: timelines, reckless testing, and user defaults</p><p>(01:04:12) Payjoin, heuristics, and passive consolidation</p><p>(01:11:01) Consolidation strategies: Liquid swaps, CT, and fee‑aware UTXO management</p><p>(01:15:48) Lightning address UX with Liquid: directories, costs, and tiny payments</p><p>(01:17:10) Nostr as a wallet backend: zaps, contact book, and secure comms</p><p>(01:18:01) Multisig in practice: BitPay’s UX, Miniscript future, and mobile approvals</p><p>(01:20:19) Operator messaging and alerts: following npubs inside the app</p><p>(01:20:49) Core v30, OP_RETURN, and policy vs consensus</p><p>(01:31:09) Funding open source: OpenSats, private companies, and shipping culture</p><p>(01:35:15) Why open source keeps us sane: creativity, legacy, and closing notes</p><br /><br />more info on the show: <a href="https://citadeldispatch.com" target="_blank">https://citadeldispatch.com</a><br />learn more about me: <a href="https://odell.xyz" target="_blank">https://odell.xyz</a></p>