<p>What if the change we keep waiting for… is actually us?</p><p>In this powerful and honest conversation, I’m joined again by the incredible Kisa Marx to talk about her new book <em>We Are Who We’re Waiting For</em> and the deeper truths behind it.</p><p>Together, we explore what’s really holding education back, why neutrality might be our biggest barrier, and how systems can be working exactly as designed… even when they’re not serving children.</p><p>We also get into:</p><ul><li><p>The hidden impact of perfectionism in education</p></li><li><p>Why “getting it right” might be doing more harm than good</p></li><li><p>How the system shapes “worker bees” instead of thinkers</p></li><li><p>The power of small steps and shifting your mindset</p></li><li><p>What it really means to advocate for children (even when it feels uncomfortable)</p></li></ul><p>This episode is a mix of real talk, reflection, and a reminder that meaningful change doesn’t come from waiting… it comes from us.</p><p>If you’ve ever felt like something in education is off but couldn’t quite name it, this conversation will meet you right where you are.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>KISA MARX</strong></p><p>Kisa Marx is an author, anti-racist curriculum developer, and founder of The Play Lab Foundation, a nonprofit offering play- and nature-based childcare to families who face barriers to access in Oak Park, Illinois. With over 20 years in the field, Kisa is anchored in the belief that childhood is sacred, nature is restorative, and play is revolutionary. Her newest book just came out, called We Are Who We&#39;re Waiting For. When not advocating for equitable early learning or supporting her “crew” of young learners, she spends time with her partner of 26 years, tending to their garden of adult children, pets, and plants. Kisa has also included a pre-workshop reflection for you to do prior to starting her session today that you can find just below the video. SO go ahead and fill that out and then come back to join Kisa in her session. 
 </p><p><br></p><p><strong>LINKS</strong></p><p><strong>Grab Kisa’s book here: </strong><a href="https://www.redleafpress.org/We-Are-Who-Were-Waiting-For-Transformative-Change-in-Early-Childhood-Education-P3172.aspx?ItemId=1201112"><u>RedLeaf (US) </u></a> or <a href="https://lb.ca/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/newsearch1?/Z109991"><u>Login</u></a></p><p><strong>Website: </strong>https://theplaylabnfpoakpark.org/</p><p><strong>Substack:</strong> <a href="https://kisamarx.substack.com/"><u>https://kisamarx.substack.com/</u></a> </p><p><strong>Instagram: </strong><a href="https://www.instagram.com/iam_still_learning/"><u>https://www.instagram.com/iam_still_learning/</u></a>  and <a href="https://www.instagram.com/theplaylabfoundation/"><u>https://www.instagram.com/theplaylabfoundation/</u></a> </p><p><strong>LinkedIn:</strong> <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmarxoftheplaylab/"><u>https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmarxoftheplaylab/</u></a> </p><p><br></p><p><strong>SUBSCRIBE &amp; REVIEW</strong></p><p>If you loved this episode, please take a moment to subscribe and leave a review. Your support helps us reach more ECEs who are in the thick of it!. Thanks for tuning in to The Everything ECE.  See you next week! shape their early years.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>CONNECT WITH CARLA</strong></p><p><a href="https://carlatheece.com/latte-lounge-membership"><u>The ECE Latte Lounge</u></a></p><p><strong>Email Newsletter:</strong> ⁠⁠<a href="https://early-learning-foundations.kit.com/b0fcdc38a5"><u>Click Here⁠</u></a><u> </u></p><p><strong>Website:</strong><a href="http://elfoundations.com"> </a><a href="http://carlatheece.com"><u>carlatheece.com</u></a></p><p><strong>Instagram:</strong> <a href="https://www.instagram.com/carlatheece"><u>@carlatheece</u></a></p>