<p>Security experts and Microsoft MVP&#39;s Christopher Brumm and Fabian Bader join hosts Frans Oudendorp and Michel van Vliet to explore the end of traditional VPNs, the rise of Entra Global Secure Access, and why automation is essential for modern security operations.We discuss Zero Trust migrations, XDRInternals, Defender automation, and where identity‑driven security is heading in the next few years.</p>