California governor Gavin Newsome apparently thinks that he can be the Joe Rogan of the left, and he's out with a puzzling new podcast in an attempt to prove it. Except his idea is to apparently do softball interviews with some of the most grotesque voices on the right. In his first episode he ends up agreeing with professional bigot and right wing activist Charlie Kirk's extreme views on trans issues.

Katelyn and Christine question who this podcast is supposed to be for, and why the Dems are feeling so inept lately (and an extended riff about Chuck Schumer).

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