Contact Center Show
Contact Center Show

Contact Center Show

Amas Tenumah & Bob Furniss

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This is the public square for all things contact center. This is where the world's best Call & Contact center professionals come to get better at delivering a great experience for customers. Your contact center mentors - Amas Tenumah & Bob Furniss

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AI Is Replacing Tasks. The Real Question Is What Happens to Relationships?
JUN 11, 2026
AI Is Replacing Tasks. The Real Question Is What Happens to Relationships?
Bob just returned from Italy with a story that should make every customer service leader pay attention.At train stations in Venice and Florence, there were no employees to help. Just kiosks. If you wanted a ticket, you figured it out yourself. If you had a question, there was nobody to ask. It wasn't a glimpse of the future. It was the present.That experience led us into a bigger discussion about AI, automation, and what customer service becomes when human interaction disappears.We unpacked a recent Anthropic report showing that customer service roles have some of the highest exposure to AI-driven task automation. But exposure to tasks is not the same as elimination of jobs.The deeper question is this:Is customer service simply a collection of transactions, or is it fundamentally about relationships?We discussed real-world results from an enterprise deployment of agentic AI where:Escalation rates were 4x higher when customers interacted with AI versus humans.Customers were significantly more likely to demand supervisors from bots.Contact volume increased by 50% in less than six months.Companies discovered that delivering bad news remains far more effective when done by a human.History suggests that new channels rarely reduce demand. Email didn't reduce contacts. ATMs didn't eliminate bank tellers. They changed the nature of the work.AI may do the same.At the same time, organizations are racing toward automation while learning that token costs, increased interactions, and customer behavior may complicate the promised economics.The technology is arriving at bullet-train speed.The question is no longer whether AI is coming.The question is:Who are you in an AI-first world?Will your company become a vending machine that happens to sell products?Or will you intentionally preserve the human elements that create trust, loyalty, and relationships?Because customer relationship management was never supposed to become customer technology management.Topics discussed:Anthropic's AI exposure findingsWhy task automation doesn't automatically eliminate jobsThe difference between transactional and relational serviceReal-world lessons from agentic AI deploymentsRising escalation rates with AI interactionsThe hidden cost of token consumptionWhy customers treat bots differently than humansThe future role of human agentsHow leaders should rethink customer service strategy in an AI-first era
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18 MIN
 AI and the End of Agents?
APR 23, 2026
AI and the End of Agents?
Exploring the future of AI in customer service, the role of agents, and how technology is transforming contact centers.AI in customer serviceThe role of human agents vs. botsGenerative AI and workflow orchestrationImplications for contact center staffingFuture trends in AI and automation00:00 Introduction and Guest Credibility01:04 The Reality of AI Agents Today01:43 AI as a Smart Assistant in Customer Calls02:35 Agent Interaction and Human Oversight03:34 Issuing Credits and Automation in Calls04:56 Differences from Past AI Systems05:24 Generative AI and Workflow Orchestration06:38 Automating Routine Tasks with API Calls07:21 Focusing on Customer Conversations08:30 The Future Role of Human Agents09:18 The Next Generation of AI in Customer Support09:58 Scaling AI and Multiple Conversations10:57 Supervising Bots and AI Agents11:51 AI in Escalations and Approvals12:30 The Impact on Contact Center Staffing13:25 New Entrants and Innovation in AI14:30 Channels and Self-Service in the Future15:22 Transitioning from Live Agents to Digital Support15:53 Industry Trends and CFO Expectations16:14 Implications for Workforce and Business Models17:08 The Economics of AI and Customer Support18:28 Preparing for the AI-Driven Contact Center19:35 Historical Context and Future Predictions20:15 Limitations and Realities of AI Adoption21:09 Customer Behavior and AI Impact22:04 Self-Service and Customer Expectations22:50 The Extent of AI Automation23:17 The Role of Technology in Customer Support24:43 Amazon’s Approach to Automation25:36 Limitations of Current AI Models26:36 Decision-Making Boundaries for AI27:04 The Human Element in AI-Driven Support28:15 Closing Remarks and Future Outlook
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28 MIN